Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Can we not keep bussing them back up to Northern Ireland and say to Stormount you need to tell mainland UK to come up with a solution that stops NI being a gateway into the ROI.

And why can't our answer be to send them on a bus up North?

If mainland UK wants to deal with them then all well and good, if nothing they'll make their way down to the ROI where we'll bus them back up North

Yeah we could do that in theory but it's not a great solution. They can't even keep the ones they moved up to citywest there.

It's mad to think I can't get to spain for two weeks without proving who i am but these lads can rock up and roam free and we've no idea who, where or what they are.

Its absolutely wild.

Think of this, Ireland a population of 5 million nearly the same size of Manchester trying to compete with the big EU boys to adsorb a colossus logistics of people who have absolutely nothing but a ripped-up document and a story to tell.

Tens of thousands of IPA applicants mostly all male already currently in IPA centres awaiting AS status (but don't self deport should they fail - near 70% fail rate) while tens of thousands of more arriving here without any deterrent or checks!! This is open borders! A complete lunatic notion from the naive far left, leafy suburbia rich kids and or the NGO hivemind.

Our government, people who been in power for over more than a decade overseen Brexit (since 2016), the (European/Med) immigration crisis (since 2010s to present) unfold couldn't conger any contingency plan or preparation for a spill over off AS/IPAs arriving to our shores.
How in the world are these people still in the position of power!! Years of gas-lighting us the taxpayer about been labelled a nazi, far right extremists to refuse this madness, still we're not securing the border, cutting out this bogus bonanza of human trafficking with the bleeding heart stories of people fleeing safe countries.

Yesterday/today our main media outlets as per usual very status quo

"Encampment dismantled" - Virgin

"Need for better communication on immigration, MM"- RTE

"McEntee blasts TDs for 'blatant hatred and racism' with comments on immigration" - Examiner

Presently there's a huge polarisation of opinion, thinking with the media/ politician’s vs local working/ middle class people. What’s even more tragic, our opposition = SF, SD and labour will beat the drums of a multicultural utopia.
There is absolutely no trust and belief in the main media and main political parties, from my POV speaking to many friends and family including what you can read here in this thread or other closed immigration threads.

People will push to the right like a bat outta hell should the current zombie government not introduce real solutions to fix this crisis. My goodness our political class are the most damaging folk to our country and society!

Well said..

1. You already argued that people coming have it worse at home so what do you think this will achieve?
2. Fair enough but this will hardly make a dent in the numbers coming.
3. State owned accommodation - great - but nothing the state builds/operates is ever cheap and again unless you control the numbers this cost will more than likely keep going up. How much of an actual saving we get would need to be seen.
4. This makes no sense. Are you saying explore work options for people who have their claims rejected?
5. What has this got to do with IPA's? Not sure how many doctors/nurses or construction workers you will find.
6. Raising living standards where? the rest of the world? - good luck with that one
7. This might apply in Europe but not here.
8. Which groups would these be? Based on the ideas of balanced debate i assume you would also advocate for a clamp down on the far left as well?

All of the above is fine and dandy - but you ignored the elephant in the room. What do you suggest we do with those who have an IPA claim rejected and are not entitled to be here? Clearly you do no approve of the idea of sending them home so whats your plan?

The best way i have heard of describing our current crisis was as follows.

You have a bucket underneath a broken tap. The tap has a bad leak and the bucket is constantly full to overflowing.

Two options, constantly replace the full bucket with another empty bucket , or fix the tap.

Our government are in the market for buying buckets 😁

That's because a lot of them know owners of bucket making factories.

It's over lads. We've lost. There is no solution to this issue and we're all going to be paying a price for a long long time. Even those calling everyone far right and racist

So the Government have decided its time to hoover up derelict housing. The tender is out. They must be expecting gigantic numbers.

Not so long ago, this solution wasn't good enough to help alleviate our own housing/rental supply crisis. In fact the Govt were saying it was a non runner and sitting on their hands.

Now all of a sudden it's good enough.

Next thing they will start building mass social housing for people coming in illegally.

This Government are utterly detestable. They have done nothing but turn their noses up at the housing crisis and issues people have.

It's shameful they have deprioritized our own citizens because of their failings.

Detestable. Big new estate built in Kippure with no planning. Don't tell me that fella didn't know this was coming.

McEntee is pretty much wrong on everything to do with her brief and this is no different.

The degradation of the concept of citizenship over the last ten years has been breathtaking.

Leo did protect her, she was seen as the future of FG. I would wonder if all this was part of the reason Leo bailed, smart enough to see the trouble coming. By all accounts Harris was going to remove her until Fitzgerald intervened.

Lets remember that Francis Fitzgerald in her wisdom was the minister for justice who brought in the "leave to remain" designation. So instead of deporting people who have their asylum claim rejected, we just say "ah sure you can hang around anyway". Bonkers.

On Newstalk yesterday evening Barry Whyte was interviewing a lad called Omar from Jordan waiting for a bed in Citywest. He said it would be nice after two months on the streets. The previous 4 months were spent traveling through Serbia,Germany and France before arriving in Ireland. I would have loved Barry to ask him why he wanted to come to Ireland.