Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

An asylum model designed to disincentivise economic migration and the secondary movement of migrants through policies including increased thresholds for protection, reduced processing times, reduced protection time-limits, limited access to the labour market, limited access to welfare, increased use of detention, increased deportation, limited family reunification etc. The model is described as the Danish model because Denmark intentionally publicised the policy but it is essentially used in multiple EU Member States and EEA members, including Sweden and Norway. 

Women, children and the minor races aboard any multi deck crossing vessel are often sent below decks hence the higher deaths among women, children and Pakistanis(the Greek sinking had Pakistanis singled out).

The fresh air is above deck because they are so wedged or in the case of the below they had figured the boat was going to capsize.

Make of that what you will.

Note less women(of the known deaths) died crossing overall but consider the proportions. And consider the large amount of unknown deaths(likely never recovered as lost at sea or trapped inside)

Why not try the Hungarian model, that seems to be about the only one that works.

Elect a leader who carries out what they are elected to do and does it regardless of what others say. Fair enough he may be a far right nazi, conspiracy theorist boogeyman type but it seems to work well.

Or is that a bit too radical ?

You pay a smuggler in France to get you to Belfast. Documented a number of months ago by Barry Whyte on Newstalk

That's incredible. The UK have said that we are not allowed to police the border to stop migrants from coming in, and we have no right to return those that do cross.

We are no longer a sovereign state.

Harris started his FG career as an assistant to Fitzgerald and she is one of those who has been advising him since he got the top job.

She was apparently key to McEntee retaining Justice too.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/how-frances-fitzgerald-and-a-fear-of-the-civil-service-saved-helen-mcentees-job/a2056415841.html

I've been following this thread for a long time now, contributed on a handful of occasions and I've never been so disillusioned with how things are now in this country. My wife and I are both working and probably paying close to €2500 per month in income tax, usc etc, with one child in college, another hoping to start this year. We feel the future is looking very poor for our children, we've been let down by a government that doesn't put it's citizens first. We work hard, save for our children's education and try to be the best, most responsible parents we can be. But it's a struggle to do this when you think of how taxpayer's money is being squandered on providing for individuals who should not be here at all. There are hundreds of new homes being constructed in the large town where I live- I suspect that a lot of these will be used to house many of these new arrivals, because you know, "it's our international obligation". All paid for by working people like me and my wife, who were never asked or consulted about any of this by any politician at any time. This is a watershed moment- ordinary Irish people (especially those that get up early in the morning) are talking openly about this now and won't be quietened by any of the mob that dare to label dissenters as "far right" when they are simply just fed up of the whole mess that's been inflicted on the country's citizens.

That's not exactly true. A number of hitmen involved were foreign. Also many drugs gangs have foreign connections.

And many prostitution and trafficking gangs are led by foreigners based here.

Violence and murder in the non Irish community is fairly significant.

While I am open to people coming here genuinely fleeing conflict, short shrift should be given to economic migrants from safe countries and should be sent back on the next plane. Asylum applications from certain safe countries should not even be entertained.

And the idea of buying houses to house asylum seekers is complete lunacy from an economic point of view. Lets say the government decide to buy 1000 houses, at 400k a house, that's 400 million, for a relatively small number of migrants.

we dont have to police "the border" a large increase in random garda checks for "tax, insurance, drink drivers and illegal migrants" a couple of KMs in with any vehicles assisting illegal migration confiscated should do the trick

Eh, we have no constitutional need for one, so it won't happen

This really should be obvious. Women could not get through the middle east or North African countries as they would be attacked multiple times along the route.

Men are routinely kidnapped for slave labour and extorted for their possessions.
Other migrants would also be a huge risk for any women making such a journey. They would need to carry quite a bit of cash to pay people smugglers so the odds of them keeping hold of that would be zero.

Also for religious reasons, Muslim women would be prohibited from travelling without a male relative or spouse.

Harris as Taoiseach has to bear responsibility for the fiasco now developing.

In response to migrants coming across the border, the government have said they don't intend to do much about it, and have essentially said they can't send them back. They are now also talking of buying houses to house the new arrivals.

What a weak response, which will only encourage the floodgates to open.

Brilliant post. Please forward if to you'd local representatives. Eventually they will get the message. Otherwise your well thought out well written piece is lost. Share it on uour WhatsApp groups et . Every contribution helps get the message through.