Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Where is Roderic O'Gorman?

No comments from him in last few days.

Anything to be said for the our taxes now competing against ourselves in the search for housing, suvigirl? Will immigrants now be detrimentally affecting our housing supply?

In a world where the Ukraine war has not happened it might not be such an issue. I guess AS are the most obvious cohort to punch down on but that in itself is exacerbated by the allegedly high proportion of non genuine asylum seekers.

We're now in a position where we have one of the largest born foreign population in the EU but seem unable to support our third level students and couples looking to get married/ have kids with accommodation. It seems the thought of people skipping ahead while Irish citizens are disenfranchised is driving people round the bend.

I spoke with an FF candidate today. I just asked him what he thought and his answer was the influx needs to stop and more along that line. He got quite animated. That's striking coming from FF.

We probably need a year or two off from this carry on so that people can settle down and integrate and tempers come down. Not sure what's going to happen but a bit of guidance from government about what to expect might help. They probably need to put in limits, e.g. 20k asylum applicants per year and rest turned away.

I think a big issue is the things that haven't happened, i.e. the African population is booming, how would we cope if 1 million turned up tomorrow looking for asylum. Having a plan around such potential issues would be helpful but up until recently the government has refused to address any and all concerns. I think they should address all concerns, (no matter how outlandish) and give a roadmap for 10 years so people know what to expect. That might calm things down especially if they stick to their plan and build trust.

It's actually pretty sad, it feels a bit like we've been lurching from one crisis to another since 2008. While understandable in some places to a degree and in the circumstances, seeing Irish people uniting against immigration/ asylum seekers is awful.

Our Taxes have been competing against us for years, if you weren't aware that councils have been buying private houses for years, you must have been asleep! Missed out on a.house myself last year because the council bought it (well over the odds too)

its another abuse of the housing market by government. time to start building massive housing projects, should have been started 14 years ago.

In America, they wont give you a home and a medical card and Social Welfare if you are not contributing to the state, here they do….

In light of this morning's tender, would you agree these IPA immigrants are now detrimentally affecting our housing supply?

Good post and echos my point about capacity.

Thats really the only thing that matters.

What is the expected inflow and what housing stock do we have today, and in the piepline, to accomodate that inflow.

If the inflow is greater than capacity then people are living on the streets. Which nobody wants to see.

The govt should be producing 2 to 3 year plans that model the above.

I would suggest that everybody in the country affects our housing supply.

This is the accommodation they'll be put in when/if returned to Rwanda. I'd go there myself.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/english.elpais.com/international/2024-04-24/inside-the-rwandan-center-that-will-house-uk-deportees-come-as-a-guest-leave-as-a-friend.html%3foutputType%3Damp?espv=1

Well said and what happens when the money dwindles. Corporation tad from foreign companies contributes massively to our tax take. See the sh#t hit the fan when that dries up.

We are very much same as you. Came back to ireland in 2001. Hoping to take early retirement and be gone again.

Yes we could say the same about Irish people living illegally in the US. Irish people living illegally in the US does not make people living here illegally ok

Well, I don't see what you find mystifying about it — you'd move abroad for what you perceive to be a better life like any other immigrant (and without claiming clairvoyance, I'd be pretty quick to bet that Ireland will continue to be a generally safer country than many of those that asylum seekers come from — but they are all sob-story peddlers as is said) and you'd live in a property that a native person might otherwise have had and use services that might otherwise be devoted to native people.

It's interesting, after all, that we never see anyone on here berating the young people of Ireland for flocking to Australia at a time where Australia is experiencing a housing crisis — or even places like London for that matter where young British people are also being priced out of their native market. But of course — we will be quicker to point out the differences to other types or nationalities of migrant before we would ever dare to acknowledge the similarities.

“End the migrant scapegoating for government failures“ it says on the back of my constituency MEP social dem candidates flyer.

I appreciate some in society do blame migrants for everything(the took our jobs brigade) , but I’ve yet to see a TD blame migrants for any of the other ongoing generational issues. I’ve also yet to see the government say it’s because of migrants we are having x issues - so all in all a bit of a weird thing to put on the back of a flyer for someone I’m expected to take seriously in a European election.