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Tiger The End ?

  • 14-04-2024 4:14pm
    #1
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,144 ✭✭✭✭


    What are people thinking at this point ?

    He Probably should have announced it or will after this ?

    But looks last time out for Tiger .

    Still an extraordinary achievement to get back and make cut ...

    But like all of Tigers' career ..was always a mystery and was hard to know the truth about where he is or what the plan is.

    He does seem a more sort of reflective and grateful person towards the end of his career.

    Was some ride for fans...



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  • #2
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,982 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Doesn't look like he can play 4 rounds anymore, and certainly not at the standard required to compete. Sad to see as a big fan of his.



  • #3
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,144 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Typical Tiger ..just as I post this ..he looks solid on back..

    Playing off by heart in reality .

    Your kinda seeing his mental toughness in action...

    But ultimately for what purpose at this point..



  • #4
    BrianD3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,494 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Three Masters played since the crash - three cuts made with this one being made with several shots to spare. Even with the talk about being there to win, I think making the cut will be more important to him than he lets on. I could see him playing the Masters, Genesis and a few others for a few years yet (while not coming close to winning anything) but skipping some of the other majors. Even though Open Championship venues may be technically an easier walk for him than Augusta, he won't fancy playing in wind and rain, getting in and out of pot bunkers and trudging through wet rough.



  • #5
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 54,316 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I said it in the other thread last night, he looks busted.

    Looks like he’s in pure agony going round there, sweating like mad. Can’t even bend to pick the ball out the hole.


    It’s probably just his competitive nature keeping him going but he has nothing to prove to anyone.



  • #6
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,144 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122019543#Comment_122019543

    In fact this kind of - getting around and the crowd good will - will only go on for so long.

    He needs to judge that too - would be sad if he goes on at this too long.



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  • #7
    finglashoop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭finglashoop


    He'll be rolled out for tv as long as he allows

    Its an absolute shame watching him limp around.

    Like a punch drunk boxer lacing up the gloves again.



  • #8
    FixdePitchmark
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122019579#Comment_122019579

    Your kinda saying it the way I feel - would have been a joy if he went - OK - this is my last , nice sign off.

    But maybe we are just seeing one more part of what made him great - ultimately some sort of deeper character flaw.



  • #9
    StevenToast
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    Its golf...Tom watson should have won a major at 60....

    Tiger will rock up to the odd event and do ok....he will be grand...

    It is absolutely nothing like a boxer going on too long....

    Its golf...

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • #10
    El Guapo!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Its been an incredible performance when you consider the condition of his body. The guy is held together with nuts and bolts and is clearly in a lot of pain. As @awec said, he has nothing to prove.

    I'd like to see him hang it up at this stage. He has a wealth of experience so he'd be an excellent addition to analyst panels in his retirement. And of course, it would still be special seeing him tee it up at Augusta every year.



  • #11
    Brief_Lives
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122019650#Comment_122019650

    he's not going to stop.

    did andy murray stop? is Nadal going to stop?

    hell, do i stop at my chosen talent..

    no.

    he'll be playing for the next 10 years.



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  • #12
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,144 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122019639#Comment_122019639

    The analogy is relevant - as it is a hard watch when someone goes on too long.

    Grand for top level pros coming back and all fun and entertainment.

    But when you are watching one of the greatest players off all time - almost struggling to walk the 4 rounds, It is getting to a certain point it is hard to watch.



  • #13
    El Guapo!
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122019668#Comment_122019668

    I don't doubt that's exactly what he wants to do. He's clearly struggling badly though. His game is certainly still good enough to compete, in my opinion. Whether his body will allow it is a different story.



  • #14
    lawred2
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058346908/tiger-the-end

    I feel like we were cheated out of a decade of prime Tiger. I'm sure he feels something similar. All seems a bit pointless now whatever he's trying to do.

    It's sad. There will be nothing like him ever again.



  • #15
    lawred2
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122019707#Comment_122019707

    If your body can't hold up then you don't have the game. Hell he'd even struggle on the seniors tour



  • #16
    zocklie
    Registered Users Posts: 129 ✭✭zocklie


    I think some context to tigers weekend is needed.

    He had a VERY long day on Friday, played 23 holes, from first thing in the morning to late afternoon. It was quite cold when he started Friday, which we know he struggles with, and can imagine if you're already hurting from the morning it'll take its toll later on in the day.

    I think maybe the open might be too much for him if the weather is poor, but I definitely think he could play the masters every year and possibly the other 2 majors.

    He's also short on competitive rounds, if he can get those more regularly and manage his body, there's no reason he couldn't play competitively for at least another 5 years



  • #17
    FixdePitchmark
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122019732#Comment_122019732

    Think that is very very ambitious - don't see that.

    If he is playing in that much pain / restriction - he will have to take more and more drugs - and will eventually have even more injuries.

    I'd be surprised if he is around in 18 months.



  • #18
    frisbeeface
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    Great for him if he's able to keep going, I just hope the TV coverage starts to adjust.



  • #19
    finglashoop
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122019639#Comment_122019639

    It is though. His body cant cope and its only his **** insane determination gets him through.



  • #20
    BrianD3
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    I didn't think he looked particularly busted this time and the sweating he was doing wasn't necessarily due to pain. Also he was laughing and joking at times which was a positive sign.

    He is swinging the club well and getting decent ball speed. I'd say as long as he keeps doing that he will want to continue, Even if the walking is an issue, he'll try to convince himself that he can still compete as the walking is "just a supporting activity". Whereas when other past Masters champions have continued to turn up years after their prime with no chance of making the cut, their walking was ok but their golf wasn't good enough.



  • #21
    StevenToast
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    If a boxer continues too long...he could be killed...or end up brain damaged....

    If tiger continues too long...he'll be abit sore walking around playing golf....

    Lets have some perspective here...he's not like a warrior going out on his shield.....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



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  • #22
    lawred2
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    Why are boxers being mentioned?



  • #23
    StevenToast
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122019830#Comment_122019830

    A previous poster compared Tiger to a punch drunk boxer lacing up the gloves again....

    I cringed.

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • #24
    finglashoop
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122019822#Comment_122019822

    The analogy isnt about the outcome of the activity

    Its that neither can see that its a bad idea to give it another go.

    He cant walk around. How he can swing club is irrelevant if he cant get round the course.



  • #25
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,144 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Look - we shouldn't let the boxing thing detour the talk.

    But Sky and everyone else - and in the deeper part of Tigers' head there is some sort of odd battle going on.

    It isn't life or death or boxing - and maybe Tiger needs that bit of perspective.

    There is more to life then coming last after making the cut - what is it all about.



  • #26
    bakerbhoy
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    In interview , he has declared for the rest of the majors.

    One a month.

    Should be doable.



  • #27
    finglashoop
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122019912#Comment_122019912

    Its doable. Of course it is.

    If he makes the cut he'll finish last though as his body cant cope with playing golf for 4 days.



  • #28
    allybhoy
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    The thing that annoys me and its no fault of Tigers, is when he plays he dominates the already limited TV coverage. We can see he is in pain and struggling to get around, Not only do we see every single shot, but they also then go out of their way to show how much pain he is in, slow Mo's of him hobbling around, putting something on his back and zooming in on the pain patch, it just feels exploitative.

    I would also be concerned long term about how much pain meds he has to take to get through a round given his history with the DUI in 2017 and rehab.



  • #29
    spacecoyote
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    I think maybe he'll try next year's for sure, 25 consecutive cuts at the masters has more definition to it, quarter century, etc...



  • #30
    CONSI
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    he will keep playing till Charlie turns pro, have a round with Charlie either at Augusta or St Andrews, pass the Baton on and sit back as Charlie take Sun Day Red forward.



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  • #31
    BrianD3
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    Having thought about this some more, I'm a bit more optimistic that we'll see Tiger playing for a few years even though I doubt he'll be in serious contention again because of various factors including the standard of the competition.

    At the Masters, he played some good golf, made the cut comfortably, walked the 4 rounds and was seen joking and laughing during some of it. I think the attitude now will be if he can do it once, he can do it again - but better. That is the athlete's mindset. However I still think that bad weather and wet rough (i.e. Open Championships) or even hacking out of thick dry rough won't be fun and could exacerbate physical problems. If he sprays the ball about on his drives at the next three Majors, I could see no cuts made and maybe some WDs.



  • #32
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Tiger is gone. Has been for a many years now. Not exciting. Nothing new. Much better players on the tour than him.

    He has the legacy name though. That’s all his worth nowadays.



  • #33
    The Big Easy
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    I guess it's a little similar to me watching Seve hack it around in the 90s.

    I hadn't seen his glory days, so was a little perplexed watching him get so much coverage on the ET whenever he infrequently teed it up.

    I have seen almost every moment of Tiger's dominance, so I don't really mind seeing him quite a bit now, it doesn't detract from the coverage for me as it'd be poor whether they were showing Tiger or not.



  • #34
    animajic
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭animajic


    I'm in that boat of having been too young to watch Tiger in his prime, so I appreciate any time he's out there playing and I hope to see glimpses of the quality he has/had, purely because I missed out of seeing that in the dominant years. But seeing him limp around courses after a couple of days and struggling to make shots is just sad for me



  • #35
    BraveDonut
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122019750#Comment_122019750

    This…..

    Pisses me off when you see footage of him getting out of a car, going to the locker room, endless range shots, etc when there is golf being played on the course that i want to see



  • #36
    slave1
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    I believe he can do it, he can drive and play all the shots and take the birdies down.

    Rust is the issue and that rust leads to too many bogeys so if he was back playing 20 events a year then maybe, just maybe…

    12 events a year is a no no



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  • #37
    benny79
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122035008#Comment_122035008

    I agree although I say he is practising a lot. You need to be competition sharp..



  • #38
    rooney30
    Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭rooney30


    An Open in benign conditions , burnt out course , playing hard and fast , he’ll still believe he has a chance . The other 3 majors are beyond him at this stage you’d have to think



  • #39
    [Deleted User]
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    What’s the issue with him playing? Former champions have played for years after they stopped being relevant on tour, it is one of the benefits of being a masters winner.

    His son tried to qualify for the US Open so it appears that he sees his future in golf, what an achievement that would be if they both played in the same Major.

    There is also a hundred million reasons for Tiger continuing to show up at PGA Tour events, that certainly makes the pain more bearable.

    And you would never know, as someone mentioned Tom Watson almost winning a major, with Tiger’s skill, mindset and the right conditions, who would be shocked if he added another one? Having said that, I very much doubt it would be a Masters, more likely to be an Open on a dry windy course.



  • #40
    Trampas
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    if people question eldrick appeal. He has launched his online store for his red sun day brand. $50 for a ball marker and it’s sold out



  • #41
    animajic
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭animajic


    Wow He's obviously not aiming this new gear at the average Joes, it's $175 for one of the polos



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  • #42
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122087575#Comment_122087575

    There are probably enough average Joes paying $500 for a new driver and $1k for irons to pay for Tiger polos. As a beer maker once said, reassuringly expensive.

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • #43
    animajic
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭animajic


    Oh no doubt there's still a massive amount of people ready to pay for all his new stuff



  • #44
    Brief_Lives
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122086644#Comment_122086644

    i thought you were taking the mick, but there you have it…. yanks have it sold out already

    https://www.sundayred.com/limited-edition-ball-marker-i/DW-LU045.html

    https://www.sundayred.com/limited-edition-ball-marker-i/DW-LU045.html



  • #45
    Trampas
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122088229#Comment_122088229

    I wish I was. These are the reasons why when he plays he gets wall to wall coverage. He attracts eyes and for media that means bigger money for ads.



  • #46
    Doc07
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122087575#Comment_122087575

    Unfortunately with plain crew neck t shirts by brands I never heard of until recently like Balenciaga going for €500 or more, the Tiger polo is practically TK Max priced 🤦‍♂️



  • #47
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,144 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Knew Tiger thing would work ..horrible logo and name ..but doesn't matter....

    But some of the prices are mental posted here...world is actually mental .

    Cost of all golf related items gone truly daft..



  • #48
    newport2
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122086644#Comment_122086644

    Don't worry if you missed it, you can pick one up on ebay now for $275 😐️



  • #49
    Brief_Lives
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    starts flogging his stuff at 5m 20s

    https://youtu.be/C4DDxAQTA9A?t=323



  • #50
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122089042#Comment_122089042

    Taste is subjective, I like the logo, not enough to buy them though.



  • #51
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,144 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122090464#Comment_122090464

    I guess so

    But you genuinely like this ? - it looks like something you would see stuck up in a diner / chipper in 1980 - now as we found out Tiger spent a good bit of time hanging out at the back of Diners - so fair enough.

    image.png



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