2024 Irish EV Sales

but it just leads to a lot of hassle and wasted time having to detour,

But it's OK to undergo the hassle of complaining about EVs on boards. Also wasted time 😊

Now, if you've had an EV, you could be complaining on boards WHILE your car was charging… just sayin'

Phobia is a Greek word while the other ones are Latin words so let's make it fully Greek - odoenergophobia (road-energy-fear) 😎

No, I haven't read it in full. Only relevant sections specifying power requirements etc.

PnC was only an example of what the industry could do as my response to someone's claim that they industry must help with uptake. Which I disputed. And I argued that the industry can't do much, but they could do at least PnC and that I'm surprised they still haven't. If they need to work with the CPOs then that's what they should do.

Apart from that it's 95% government policy. And I maintain the gov isn't doing enough. I'm yet to see you admitting it and you seem to be always defending the status quo while international comparison clearly shows it's substandard. I'm beginning to think you're associated with the gov/ESB given the apologetic attitude. Nothing personal, just my observation.

I think the general negative portrayal of EVs in the media is having a big effect. A lot of people won't go to the effort of detailed research into EVs and will be swayed to avoid. I'm sure we have all heard from family and friends why EVs are such a bad idea.

Along with the usual concerns about charging infrastructure and range, I have two other theories that might be contributing in some small way to the overall drop.

Current EV owners deciding to hang on to their cars rather than upgrading on their usual 2-4 year cycle. I've seen a few posts where owners are being offered poor trade-in values on their original purchase price and instead are going to keep their cars. Only a small fraction of people will ever buy a new car (EV or otherwise).

The reduction in BIK exemption values coming in 2026. This will be a bigger contributing factor in the next couple of years.

Disagree. It all adds up. There's so many things at play. It's definitely not the primary reason you could say. But it's part of the whole problem. Getting the early majority into EVs is gonna be hard and in the absence of gov policy is going to be very slow process.

You can't build infra up front if there's no demand. It makes no commercial sense. No demand, no supply. Unless you assume the gov/taxpayer will do it and incur losses.

Infrastructure lags sales. It was like that with horses to car transition too. If people were waiting for a perfect/ubiquitous infrastructure they wouldn't have switched from horses IMHO.

Saying that - arterial roads and motorways should be EV ready. The gov failed at that but thankfully the EU27 agreed to force this upon themselves. Although the requirements are very lean, it's better than no mandate whatsoever.

What the gov needs to do is to legislate and regulate. So that CPOs & companies are incentivised to build chargers, so that there are no obstacles in EV adoption of legal, bureaucratic or regulatory sort. I'm not sure the gov is doing maximum in this matter (I'm being polite and diplomatic here).

And lastly, the gov can employ carrot and stick policies. Also not happening to the degree required for growth in line with the gov own goals and commitments.

I'd bet on them to pivot to PHEVs unless the EU stops this.

Extended warranty isn't realistic. It's already 7 years standard.

It falls into the "anecdotal evidence" category.

Many EV owners here commented this isn't the case and how that's a confirmation bias.

Besides, ecars is only one of the providers. New CPOs are entering the market.

Not sure what you mean about 7 years standard? - from what I understand a lot of manufacturers only offer 3 yrs warranty as standard

VW CUPRA seat Ford Renault volvo Citroën fiat mini skoda BMW audi etc. Etc. Of course some manufacturers do better- notably Hyundai Kia various Chinese manufacturers etc.

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Battery warranty is 7y standard.

Mechanical warranty - well that differs by brand but AFAIK it isn't different to ICE or?

From what I can see the most common battery guarantee is for 8 years and/or 160k km with 70% SOH. I think most people are fine with that and understand that whatever happens they won't be paying for expensive battery fixes/replacements. My point was everything else - (major mechanical and electrical drive system components) GIVEN that EVs have so much fewer parts to go wrong beyond normal wear and tear disposable items. If the manufacturer gives a longer 5 (rather than 3 currently) year guarantee for all the major drive train/electrical components then customers could have increased confidence in buying new/ 2nd hand EVs and buy them in greater numbers.