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SMACKDOWN LIVE SUPERTHREAD

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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Is Shelton gone?

    I remember when champ Cena was a first draft pick for the other show, those days, the surprise, the pop, Melo really was the biggest draftee



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Yep, Shelton is gone. He was actually just announced as an entrant in Progress Wrestling's Super Strong Style 16



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,363 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Left out the part about AJ's history with Dusty. Seems everyone who fights Cody was mentored by Dusty in some way.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    It's not Cody's fault tbh, they've just not learned how to book a Babyface champ at all. Bayley has got the same problem as have Truth and Miz, they're starting off with opponents who are also goody two shoes in the main so there's no reason to care. Bayley at least now has some spice injected into her stories in Tiffany and now Nia.

    AJ should be doing conniving, despicable things as a heel like he was vs Knight instead he's talking about respect and shaking hands. It's shocking booking. If you booked it on MyGM on 2k24 for a single match Triple H would be chastising you for how it's not a good idea so why on earth does he think it's feasible on the actual shows?

    Genuinely though it's going to be this way now because of how many PLEs there are. If Cody is going to work them all we're going to get the same boring 'Dusty was your dad' builds.

    I do not understand why they don't pull the bloody trigger on Randy Orton and have him absolutely destroy Cody to take him off shows for at least a few weeks, starting a lengthy blood feud with him that runs for a few months instead of hugging Kevin Owens in the ring fending off the wish.com version of the Bloodline.

    Hate to say it but Romans schedule meant his appearances as champ actually added gravitas to the show, it made you want to tune in when he showed up. Rollins reign as the Babyface fighting champ also got stale pretty fast cos he was so overexposed. They've segued from Cody finishing the story to three weeks of Cody soaking in the moment cutting the same promo and holding the title like a baby with a full nappy(and HHH coming out at every opportunity to share the spotlight) and now have ten days to build to Backlash rather than setting proper feuds up. It's lazy. It's going to get worse as well because of the international schedule unfortunately.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    As soon as Triple H went into his "now listen here kids, the draft is about protecting what the brands have as much as gaining new stars is" spiel I knew it was going to be a complete and utter bust tbh. They basically spelled it out for us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,187 ✭✭✭Ridley


    AJ should be doing conniving, despicable things as a heel like he was vs Knight instead he's talking about respect and shaking hands. It's shocking booking. If you booked it on MyGM on 2k24 for a single match Triple H would be chastising you for how it's not a good idea so why on earth does he think it's feasible on the actual shows?

    I think the other foot comes down with Styles during that face to face or whatever but I could really do with him hoofing Cody in the crotch to spare the world from another Rhodes kid banging on about the time his dad held a championship for a hot minute.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    AJ showing respect to Cody but not Knight makes sense to me. AJ can respect the grind Cody went through outside of WWE, while he thinks Knight is robbing a living.

    I always expected Cody's first feud to be lukewarm, and I'd say they're just killing time before they begin whatever the big feud will be leading to Summerslam.

    Think back to when Austin won the title for the first time, he was feuding with Dude Love!

    We're at a stage where multiple major storylines have ended or are being recalibrated, so patience is needed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,187 ✭✭✭Ridley


    I kinda assumed Backlash would be preamble for The King and Queen of Cheese, with Rhodes/Styles first time evaaar for the French crowd. Even if Styles maintains the respect thing going into the PPV I imagine that'll go out the window when they have the match.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,443 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    AJ was going to attack Cody after the main event right?

    How many attacks or backstabbing events do we need to see each week? Since Mania we have seen so many of them that it is actually nice to see something else.

    WWE probably need to cool things a little in the main event so they can build for summerslam. Maybe Rock will be back or a big feud with Orton as mentioned above would be a good outcome. Cody having a few 'dream match type bouts' without huge intensity is probably the right call for now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,154 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Weird one alright - like, they showed these videos of the lads in the back room with the Raw team going mad that LA Knight was taken off the table for instance… would've made so much more sense for Raw's next pick in that round to have been Knight, and they have to scramble, instead of them having just picked someone else next anyway.

    Also the fact it's clearly not done in order of preference kinda breaks the reality of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,363 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Looks like Smackdown is live on TV at 6pm today here. Airs at the usual time in the States.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,208 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    They said a big announcement about next year's WrestleMania will be announced tomorrow.

    Am pretty sure that's going to be that next year's Mania will be in London...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,065 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Maybe and would fit the new rumoured 'May date'

    Would Wembley not have some sort of 'gentleman's agreement with Neckbrace Tony' ?. Hardly be Twickenham or Spurs Stadium



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    The French want Roman



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,384 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    good show and the crowd were great. Getting a wrestle mania announcement tomorrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,384 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Wembley have an arrangement with the Jacksonville jaguars which is the other sports team the khans own. I know they had AEW last year but is it a block ?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    #CrokerMania

    🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,211 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    If it can host the damn rugby it can host the showcase of the immortals



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,363 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    After seeing the CatC prices, imagine how much Mania tickets would be.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    One arm and a leg. I’d be inclined to pay it for mania tho for 2 night but not for a b level PPV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,065 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Suppose bigger arena/stadium etc 'might' make tickets more affordable but it's WrestleMania very near our own backyard and it would justify the spend

    Guess we'll wait and see



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,065 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    I'm guessing the timing of the 'announcement' might suggest it's 'international'

    If it was Vegas they could of just waited til next week when there back in the States

    Who knows



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Would they really take their "Superbowl" in "Wrestlemania" out of America next year



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,363 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    So going by the weird entrance order on Smackdown, I guess it's safe to say Bianca and Jade are winning? Like it was Bayley, Naomi, Damage Control, Bianca then Jade. Had me confused as to what type of match it was. Thought might have been a 3 way tag.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    It's either Jade and Bianca winning or Bianca turning. Cos that's 100% happening at some point but I don't think it's going to be tonight. Possibly closer to SummerSlam...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,065 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Well that's that about Mania London for this near future anyway



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    No KO or Solo, singles match at KOTR?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    I'd say Bloodline might move into a feud with Lashleys group The Pride next. Would be a good way of getting the brothers Tonga into the tag scene.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Is Lashley vs. Melo being teased might meet in KOTR?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Nick Aldis has announced that Bobby Lashley has been PULLED from his match in the King of the Ring Tournament after not being cleared to compete.

    He has been replaced by Pride stablemate Angelo Dawkins, who will face Tama Tonga in the first round.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,363 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    So, storyline wise, is The Rock the one who signed the new members of The Bloodline?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    It looks like the new women's tag champs are also in KOTR matches



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,363 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Going for the Cargill/Belair final?

    Since it wasn't clear, is the Cody/Logan match just champ vs champ or are titles on the line?

    Melo vs Orton should be good.

    Just thinking again while watching, will we get a midcard title for the women? Especially with them introducing one on NXT.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭ThePott


    That was really good Smackdown. They've really made KOTR/QOTR feel important by having big names in it. Surprised in the matches I enjoyed though.

    I'll say it again, Nia has been great since she returned, I'm eating crow here. Her match with Naomi was pretty great. I also think this was one of Bianca's best showings as a singles with Piper.

    On the men's side I think Tama had some great presentation and having Orton tease a feud with him makes him feel important. Solo has a great look at the moment even if I'm not sure he's fully convinced me in his 'underboss' vibe yet. Guessing he hasn't spoken to Roman and is lying. Orton/AJ slapped but that's hardly a surprise.

    Yeah it was odd. I think Logan is a good choice for a challenger but Cody saying he needs that title for the Grand Slam made it seem like it could be title for title. I really don't want Cody with both though, I know they can worm their way out of it but still. As for a women's midcard title, I think it's needed. Would love if the winner of the QOTR was the inaugural champ too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,363 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Seeing the brackets again, it's funny that Michin and Ivy are both in the tournament while also being in the NXT North American tournament. Not that Ivy is in the next round of QotR and Michin likely won't be either.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Yes Nia is great on her return

    It's seems every guest on Paul's podcast is his next feud



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    I think Nia winning by count out of DQ is the way to go (though I actually expect a Tiffany/Cargill semi final), agreed @ThePott Nia has been very very solid in the ring since she's come back and would be an ideal candidate to take the belt from Bayley in a heelish manner

    Solid Smackdown. A lot of wrestling. I'm fine with Logan Paul being the contender as he at least gives Cody something new to work against other than "Dusty was your dad"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,065 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Part of me would love to see Logan Paul win just for the meltdown online

    Not sure does Cody need the US title



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    LA Knight and Tiffany won to advance on Live House Show



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    How long now has Logan Paul been in WWE and getting his second world title match



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    A tease of LA Knight vs. Logan Paul, US title match at Summerslam?

    Also great funny sign

    😁🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Cody hasn't earned a shot at the US title but Logan has earned for Cody's world title



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,187 ✭✭✭Ridley


    Plz give Tama Tonga a better finisher, ideally one that lends itself to his irritated gremlin gimmick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,363 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Guess that solves the issue of Cost holding both titles.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    😂😂 I saw that clip earlier and thought someone had dubbed it

    Bloodline isn't working for me, solo dressing like a circus ringmaster and has zero charisma to lead a group

    I Thought Stratton would have been a good choice for queen of the ring and would have gone well with her gimmick. She's killing it since moving up and is getting over



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