Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

If they claim asylum and are unsuccessful some will be deported.

It's a difficult and expensive process, which Ireland, even with McDowall as Justice minister have never had much success with.

From the figures I shared a few days back, McDowall only managed to effect about 20% of deportation orders, and mostly to countries such as Romania, then on the verge of joining the EU.

Of course we know now that McDowell simply got in early on the plans to enrich the hotel owners.

I get that it is difficult to deport people but it seems apparent in Ireland that the authorities don't detain any migrant who has been unsuccessful and makes the most feeble attempt to make them leave.

Not only that, we gave amnesty to undocumented migrants even after they were told to leave:

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2023/08/10/four-in-five-undocumented-people-who-applied-to-regularise-their-status-in-ireland-were-successful/

When you compare that to the undocumented Irish in America, our politicians & diplomats have lobbied US representatives for decades now and made little to no progress with it even though we have never been at war in more than a century, don't really have any culture of extremism and are relatively peaceful nation!

Lets not forget that Asylum Seeking has never been a normal immigration process and to me handing out amnesty to those who are unsuccessful completely undermines the process for genuine applicants.

The article above cites quotes from McEntee and the DOJ saying it's a once off but frankly I haven't an ounce of trust in McEntee at this point.

There is no corner. We don't have open borders, unless you count the CTA and the EU. Which are totally open.

The asylum process isn't open borders.

So anyone with issues about open borders, obvs has issues with the UK and EU citizens here, because they are the ones availing of open borders.

Would you ever knock that crap off

If a child kept responding with that,I would have to ask questions

Who are these men exactly ?

We don't know. Haven't you been hearing the news about how they are undocumented. Lot of young healthy guys. Also we know some have been denied in several EU countries and are rapists. The system allows anonymity and deceit. Even rewards it. We don't know.

Salubrious

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/salubrious

(səlubriəs IPA Pronunciation Guide)

1. ADJECTIVE

A place that is salubrious is pleasant and healthy.

City West hotel

Racket hall hotel

The tents are clean and heated. You have your meals, health care, bedding, security, wifi, etc etc provided for. They are in nice locations. They are pleasant and healthy. You don't have to do anything. Ireland is your servant.

So, all in all you get a sweet deal here.

Why were homeless people in doorways never given tents? Or were they? Just curious.

Where does it end though? 100,000 or 1000,000. The number of people living in the 3rd world who would like to move to Europe is probably in the billions.

If even a fraction of that number arrived, our entire welfare state would collapse and our economy would completely collapse.

Why can't you understand the simple point that people seeking asylum gain from this situation but Irish people lose out completely.

Irish people's children live at home until their 40's and young couples scrimp and save for years to afford a deposit yet we are supposed to find bilions to house random people who arrive here. Why do you act surprised that the majority are against this? The situation is absolute madness and won't continue for much longer.

AS tents now pitched along the grand canal since mount street encampment was cleared a few days ago and the number will likely rise again in the next few days. https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2024/05/04/asylum-seekers-sleeping-in-tents-by-grand-canal-say-they-have-nowhere-else-to-go/

If AS need to present to the IPO to apply, maybe there should be several IP offices eg, at citywest, crooksling, trudder. Otherwise people will continue to pitch tents in the general area around mount street with no access to basic sanitary facilities.

It shows how the middle group is moving tbh. Cooper knows how to read the room he runs with the hair etc. I wonder if yeats, cooper,McDowell,McNamara will be all labelled right wing etc

Both IPA offices in Mount Street and Citywest are only open Monday to Friday. Wonder what happens to anyone who’s arrived since Friday evening considering it’s a bank holiday weekend. Is there someone standing outside directing them to where they get tents?

Not directing questions at you personally, just thinking out loud.

The CTA only applies to UK and Irish citizens afaik it is not for other nationalities including other EU citizens. That free movement changed since brexit.

I don't know any irish person who has a problem showing a passport when entering the state from the uk through airports or ferry ports, or vice-versa. I wouldn't have a problem showing a passport at NI border.