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Megalopolis - Francis Ford Coppola

  • 12-05-2022 10:32PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭


    Francis Ford Coppola's 20 years in the making self funded with his entire fortune has found its cast.

    Francis Coppola Sets ‘Megalopolis’ Cast: Adam Driver, Forest Whitaker, Nathalie Emmanuel, Jon Voight & Filmmaker’s ‘Apocalypse Now’ Teen Discovery Laurence Fishburne

    Coppola is directing the independently-financed film from his own script. Here’s how he is describing the contemporary drama: The fate of Rome haunts a modern world unable to solve its own social problems in this epic story of political ambition, genius, and conflicted love. The budget will be just under $100 million, and production begins this fall. Distribution rights are being brokered by attorney Barry Hirsch.


    Deadline has written often about Coppola’s final dream project, a struggle to create a utopia after an accident leaves a New York-like city in need of a rebuild. Coppola has won five Oscars for his work, and he believes that the films of his that stand up best over time, are the ones that seemed riskiest when he made them. This one he puts closest to Apocalypse Now, a film many believed would ruin him as he was making it. Coppola wound up owning it because nobody else would give him the money, and it has poured off a fortune over the years. The 83-year old filmmaker and wine entrepreneur has lofty aspirations for Megalopolis, but his goal is not profits or accolades, but rather something he can leave behind for future generations that reflect his optimism for the potential mankind has, even as social media, polarized politics and many other things have some fearing a kind of fall of the Roman Empire. He sold a piece of his wine empire to make it possible to get the credit line to do this.


    Here is what Coppola told Deadline in a recent interview: “What would make me really happy? It’s not winning a lot of Oscars because I already have a lot and maybe more than I deserve. And it’s not that I make a lot of money, although I think over time it will make a lot of money because anything that the people keep looking at and finding new things, that makes money. So somewhere down the line, way after I’m gone, all I want is for them to discuss [Megalopolis] and, is the society we’re living in the only one available to us? How can we make it better? Education, mental health? What the movie really is proposing is that utopia is not a place. It’s how can we make everything better? Every year, come up with two, three or four ideas that make it better. I would be smiling in my grave if I thought something like that happened, because people talk about what movies really mean if you give them something. If you encouraged people to discuss marriage and education and health and justice and opportunities and freedom and all these wonderful things that human beings have conceived of. And ask the question, how can we make it even better? That would be great. Because I bet you they would make it better if they had that conversation.”


    As for a financial risk most filmmakers would loath to take on themselves, Coppola has made and lost fortunes before, and between his moviemaking and wine businesses, he has a chip pile higher than most. So he is not as worried about losing some of that, as he would be if he left his dream project on a shelf.





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    It will debut at Cannes this year in the gala premiere slot on the Palais on Friday evening May 17



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    It's also failing to find a distributor. Despite being almost entirely self funded nobody wants to touch it. It's not helped by the fact Coppola wants a $100 million spend on marketing, which is kind of insane. As the article notes A24 or Neon are both obvious distributors here but they'd not have the pockets to fund that kind of marketing sped.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,676 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    It's a bit crazy from him but it's also sad to see someone like Coppola not getting funded.

    There's news recently of David Lynch trying to get an animated feature greenlit by Netflix but they weren't going for it. When you see some of the stuff that does get made and released it's just sad to see great artists struggle to get their art made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,431 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    First image is in the below article for anyone interested. I read that article from a couple of weeks back where insiders spoiled some of the issues....and I can't say I blame the Studios for being hesitant. That being said, the idea of it not being picked up feels unthinkable in a way, Coppola will have to compromise.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/story/megalopolis-francis-ford-coppola-first-look-exclusive



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I really hope this does get a big screen release it would be a shame if it just ends up on a streaming platform.

    Maybe Apple will pick it up and give it a limited big screen release before it hits streaming having thrown big money at other directors in their 80's in Scorsese & Scott in the last year.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,263 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Perhaps unintentional shades of The Hudsucker Proxy there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,764 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,344 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    And here’s the actual trailer (as opposed to the clip).

    I would say odds are there it’s going to be a real mess, but can’t help but root for it to be at least an interesting mess (although also noting some of the alleged questionable behaviour by Coppola noted in The Guardian article). Certainly boasts some striking if rather… on-the-nose imagery (exhausted lady justice statue, anyone?). Though sounds like a lot of it was made up in post, which doesn’t bode super well. We’ll hear critics give their impressions after its Cannes premiere on Friday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,431 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    While I've no doubt Coppola has a waft of airs about him to the point that he purchased that motel, I have to baulk at the mentality of "we could have done this in 10 minutes digitally." Some of these crew members seem to have a waft of privilege radiating from them so they shouldn't be throwing stones.

    Dracula 1992 is still one of my favourite films to this day, and Coppola used the same methods on that film. Based on Coppola's response to dealing with dissenting voices back in 1992, I'm surprised he just didn't fire these people.

    Maybe they should of went to work for Disney instead.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,347 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    The trailer's a bit on the nose, especially given current climate in the US and I find Coppola hit-or-miss. While I loved The Godfather Part 1 & 2 I found Apocalypse Now to be overrated (I realise I'm in the minority there). And I'm always wary of "Passion Projects" Especially if they have been gestating for many years. They tend to morph over the years and end up confused and bloated. I remember this being mentioned alongside Kubrick's treatment of "Supertoys last all summer long" which became Spielberg's "A.I", Scorsese was working on The Irishman for years also. A director needs a good producer and editor to keep them in check. Witness the tightness of the first Matrix movie over the "Have all the money and control you want" of the sequels. Even the Lord of The Rings trilogy, while three movies with decent running time, (Original cuts) may not seem "tight", they were laser-focussed compared to the god-awful plasticky Hobbit movies. And as directors

    Im sure every director has a "Passion Project" that may or may not be actually a decent film And it's not that it's particularly that generation of directors (Scorsese, Coppola, DePalma, Spielberg, Lucas etc). It's just that that particular generation of directors is still on the go. I'm sure, 30 years from now, Zach Snyder will want to release a bloated, confused, pointless 2-movie Seven Samurai ripoff……



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,344 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Reviews predictably say it’s an ungodly mess, with various positive and negative variations on how successful it is in its messiness.

    This is basically what I’m expecting:



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Hey if you're gonna sell your very successful vineyard to make a final go-for-broke movie in your dotage, ain't it great the final result is so wildly divisive people are talking about it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Xofpod


    Have we got a release date for Ireland for this yet?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,344 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,344 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Haha Lionsgate released a very weird trailer for this, featuring a bunch of historical, negative critic quotes about Coppola’s past masterpieces - all framed in the context of ‘his genius wasn’t understood at the time’. Obviously trying to sell Megalopolis in a ‘this will be widely admired in 50 years’ sort of way.

    One problem: the quotes in question were completely made up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,345 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    That's really quite bizarre. At time of posting, IGN had yet to take the trailer down from their channel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,386 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    they asked chatgpt for bad reviews of coppola films.., it made them up

    Post edited by expectationlost on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,263 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    ha, literally ‘be careful what you wish for’.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,347 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    AI review: Three thumbs down (On one hand)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Xofpod


    Ticket booked for the weekend. Attempting to approach with as open a mind as possible…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,347 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Oh dear. Rant is not QUITE up there with "Sex in the City II" or "Entourage" rant but not far off (He doesn't start with "I'm not going to rant, but…"). Very funny.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Shelga


    😂😂😂 I love Kermode. Says it like it is. This is a hard pass from me.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,481 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Not on at my local, predictably. Sounds like it's not worth getting on the bus to see.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,431 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Sounds like he'll need another Bram Stoker's Dracula type miracle to save him.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,344 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Haha what a film this is. Can’t in good conscience recommend it to most people, but if you’re open to what it’s peddling and willing to endure some absolute nonsense… well, it’s worth witnessing at least.

    I think the visuals capture the essence of this grandest of follies. Some of the images are legitimately fetching - often creatively edited together to create a tapestry of ideas. Then other images are the most garish of CG shite - just horrid nonsense that an amateur with a computer and After Effects could improve on.

    And that’s sort of the film as a whole. The problems are glaring and innumerable. It’s wildly incoherent, with characters often making baffling u-turns or pivotal details being either glossed over or entirely non-existent. It really feels like essential scenes were left out of the edit accidentally. But then it’s also a major filmmaker grappling with so many ideas that some inevitably stick. The performances vary wildly in quality (there were several moments of laughter in the cinema where I’m pretty sure that was not the intention), but there are well-earned moments of comedy, romance and thematic payoff thanks to the cast’s efforts and Coppola’s relentless commitment to realising his half-baked, rambling sci-fi testament to the healing power of creativity and sprawling satire of American excess.

    It is an insane artefact that should not exist. It’s barely recognisable as a film from the man who made The Conversation or The Godfather Part 2. And yet it’s also so earnest, so passionate, such a spectacular fiasco of a thing that I couldn’t help but be glad it does exist. A triumphant failure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Xofpod


    What he said. It was a somewhat glorious mess that I'm happy I saw but would be reluctant to recommend to most people.

    Fair dues to FFC for sticking to his guns but if he had listened to other voices, there's the bones of a great movie in there.

    As it is, I reminded of his quote from Hearts of Darkness "We were in the jungle. There were too many of us. We had access to too much money, too much equipment, and little by little, we went insane."…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,716 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    I'm hearing unreal stuff about this. It's so bad you should avoid rather then see it because it's so bad as a damning opinion of it.

    Even Kermode saying it's the equivalent of toothache is really tearing it apart.

    I think I'll pass on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,347 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    I'm not against seeing a "So-bad-it's-good" movie but not going to pay to see it in cinema. I AM against going to a "So-bad-it's-bad" movie at all. I have never walked out of a movie because it was bad (Came close with "Striking Distance" though. Only thing that kept me there was that it was pouring rain outside. GOD I hated that movie)

    So I'll give this a miss and MAYBE watch it once it hits the streamers. As I and other said above, and Kermode/Mayo did also, a director needs a good producer. Needs a good editor. Needs someone to say "No". Especially as they get bigger… or older. More is not necessarily better. Prometheus is not better than Alien because it goes more into the lore of that universe. Alien was a tight, claustrophobic, blue-collar, grounded masterpiece (well, as grounded as a movie with aliens and spaceships can be). Prometheus was a bloated, shiny mess full of idiots who touch stuff they should know they shouldn't and in a Zoolander-level of stupidity, can't turn right to avoid a rolling spaceship. WOULD Scott have made Prometheus in 1979 if he had the technology? I'd like to think not.

    Sometimes it's right to say "No". Just because you CAN, doesn't mean you SHOULD…. CoughSPEEDRACERCough



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 918 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf


    I would say I'd be interested in a BTS type documentary like Hearts of Darkness, but based on reports it would mostly be FFC smoking in his trailer coming up with weird ideas



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