Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Sunday Independent/ Ireland Thinks poll was interesting, if 40% of those polled favour a policy of deterrence as rigid as the Rwanda Plan, then presumably a majority would favour less rigid policies of deterrence as practised in Scandinavia.

https://demo-demo.nl/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Borderless_Welfare_State-2.pdf

Borderless Welfare State: The Consequences of Immigration for Public Finances.

And then they give the number actually deported that year.

Firstly, you don't know that one group are law abiding citizens, that is my point. You know nothing about UK and EU citizens living here. No vetting, thought that was a big issue for posters?

Secondly, how many AS entered Ireland illegally? You cannot call the entire group of AS lawbreakers, when you don't know how they got into the country. Unless you have those figures?

I'm not the biased one here, there are posters complaining about unvetted men, but no issues with unvetted men or women from EU or UK. There are posters complaining about foreigners coming here for our welfare, but no issues with UK citizens being entitled to all welfare, same as Irish. There are posters complaining about men we don't know coming here, but no issues with men from the UK or EU, that we don't know either!

Nope, I'm not the biased one.

Again more deflection. Entering the country illegally is illegal.

So EU/UK citizens entering Ireland = legal law abiding.

AS entering via lorries/NI border and/or destroying documents = illegal breaking the law.

People have no issue with EU/UK because its legal and reciprocal.

I'm bowing out now because you're either deliberately talking pony or you're actually incapable of comprehending simple facts.

As regards vetting at least, EU migrants with previous involvement in crime would generally be flagged on the European Criminal Records System (ECRIS) because their crimes would be committed and recorded in the EU. This is less common in the case of non-EU criminals because their crimes will generally be committed in their country of origin. The State is able to automatically access to EU criminal records, it is unable to automatically access Nigerian criminal records.

Stop for god sake , becoming embarrassing at this stage. If you are so hung up on offering these people who have come to ireland without a visa , for a better life. Will you offer them a bed in your house.

I suspect not but yet you expect Mr and thousands of others to fund your Liberal agenda.

To hell with international obligations. Where are irish obligations. Obligations to provide for the electorate that voted for you.

1673 without accommodation and they are still arriving.

I will lay a little bet with you and all the other liberals.

Bon secour have put Barringtons hospital up for sale in Limerick city centre. The logical thing would be for the HSE to purchase it to alleviate the crisis in UHL. I bet within a year it will be full of IPA's

Where ... does... the money ...come...from... for all this accommodation.

Massive national debt on a very fragile tax base but spend spend.

Suvigirl I know what I am talking about if anything happens in the US to discourage FDI we won't have money to turn on street lights not to mind housing all these refugees.

Regardless of statistics on refused entry and returns, in 2022 there were 26 enforced deportation orders, in 2011 there were 280 enforced deportation orders, this, in a year where there were only 1,290 asylum applications. 

Still no figures as to who entered the country illegally. So, your essentially claiming that all AS are criminals because they entered the country illegally, even though you don't know whether they did it not. And I'm biased!

To integrate into Irish society you need English to communicate.

That is important in my view

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/potential-checkpoints-along-northern-ireland-32740392?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR39cl60jhlEbBRll_oLEoVa3y0pKOIzOKJjMyI28rR4QIkKOh3_MO7pIig_aem_AQTEbiPI_dMsbpxr0PVu8APfy1yRo6PCKNFXOOMfg09S4tSzbLW8E3YVfrpW4GTYTt4z9uyg-DtebFhFZoxobJLi

This is the first time in Ireland that virtue signalling and human rights advocating general leftism has led to a crisis. People who advocated for this utopia are now falling silent because the consequences are there for all to see. It's impacting them, it's impacting everyone.

I think it's a big turning point.

I think the political outcome of all of this is going to be enormous.

No I actually quite clearly outlined AS entering illegally. Not ALL AS.

Comprehension again? Or pony?

But given every single one of them has had to pass through multiple other countries to get here. Countries they entered illegally but didn't claim AS in.

Even going by ridiculously outdated Geneva convention rules that makes them criminals.

They only get their get out of jail if they claim AS. But by entering and leaving without claiming AS that means they're just criminals.

So they should be treated as such when they arrive on our shores.

That's the same self published 'research' we've had here before.

You lot make the climate denial crowd look well informed.

what i witnessed at the site in Newtown, health and safety is one of many parts of the law that the IPO care very little for.