Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

I've no idea who is behind the plan but it's here in back and white..

 This plan will prepare us for population growth of approximately 1 million between 2016 and 2040, and help us to deal with the ongoing challenges of COVID-19 and Brexit.

So that's a little over 40k extra per year by my reckoning....

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/7ac57-government-launches-the-renewed-national-development-plan-2021-2030/

It just proves he or she has not read it and just decided to rubbish it, objectivity means just because you don't like something it doesn't change it's intrinsic value and you still have to add the data into your project or experiment or policy

We have seen this with the tobacco industry and recently the oxycodon opiate crisis in the states where they attacked research they didn't like

I used figures from our own oireachtas which would have come directly from Roderic O'Gorman and Helen McEntee's department's of Integration or Justice. Those figures cannot be ignored or undermined. The only possibility would be to deem Roderic O'Gorman and Helen McEntee and their departments wholesale incompetent which would outright prove the case of the side they oppose. A checkmate situation

You are a conspiracy theorist as you believe a particular conspiracy is happening behind the scenes. Doesn't mean you are wrong, just that its only a theory at the moment. And who are you referring to as peasants?

100%, but there seems to be an idea going around that Irish government (and even the opposition) have somehow 'caused' the asylum seeker crisis and are responsible for all the asylum claims. In truth, every country in Europe is having to deal with the major challenge of this at the moment.

The argument is less that the State’s asylum policies have resulted in an increase in migration entirely absent in other EU Member States, than that the State’s asylum policies have resulted in an increase in migration disproportionate to other EU Member States. Asylum applications in the EU increased 50% from 2021 to 2022, in Ireland they increased 400% from 2021 to 2022. Compared with pre-COVID figures, there was a 34% increase in asylum applications in the EU between 2019 and 2022, there was a 186% increase in Ireland. 

How would they rack up the credits if they haven’t been working here?

You're outright wrong

It actually says in the paragraph above the tables refused leave to land does not perclude one from claiming international protection and she actually doesn't answer the deportation question at all

Further she deflects by only producing figures for Dublin

Now as always my interpretation may be incorrect but you'll have to show it to me in the policy you're relying on otherwise your supposition is without foundation and you better go sit down and consider a change of plee

they haven't caused it, but up until this week they haven't even acknowledged there's a problem. Taking thousands of hotel rooms out of the system, putting up portacabins and tents on numerous sites around the country, yet they still won't admit the country is at capacity and we have a major problem on our hands.

Rather than listen to the concerns of communities around the country, they rather paint us as far right and bulldoze their polices into areas. Normal citizens who have no voice, and basically told, tough, like it or lump it, because its happening and there is nothing you can do about it.

evening minister for justice who hasn’t a clue about the numbers of forced deportations .the government have admitted they have no idea who is here illegally and shouldn’t be

It's fundamentally referring to the idea that the public need to be told what to do or believe on an issue that characterises this Government and FG in particular.

There is an arrogance that we need to be guided by our "betters" or need their validation or approval that extends into how our politicians engage at EU level.

It's also why there's such indignant outrage when they get a dose of reality, such as with the recent referendum results.

from what i've seen the only people being called far right are the usual suspect agitators who show up at these protests with their ireland for the irish and irish lives matters posters, i would consider the messages on those posters to be pretty right leaning tbh, and the people setting buildings on fire.

Absolutely. It doesn't say anything of the sort claimed. In 2011 4000 people were deported or removed. People "refused entry" in 2022 were not on the majority removed despite the fiction the usual suspects attempt to create. That's the difference.

excellent post as always and like the rest of us branded as the big bad “far right” can see with our own eyes the change in our towns and villages.

Turned on that clown Brendan O’Connor show today after listening to Ivan Yates calling it out on path to power pod and it was the same old bs from rte.his feigning of no knowledge of Green Party minister gorman’s tweets of welcome and milk and honey was just incredible

The public are angry

You lot and your 'Dutch report' 🤣🤣🤣

Basically the 'research' of a couple of Dutch racists published on their own website.

I'm calling them racists based on the content of their 'research' and the fact that the only group 'peer reviewing' them are Mankind Quarterly.

From their wiki page

Mankind Quarterly is a journal that has been described as a "cornerstone of the scientific racism establishment", a "white supremacist journal",[1][2] and "a pseudo-scholarly outlet for promoting racial inequality".[3][4][5][6][7] It covers physical and cultural anthropology, including human evolution, intelligence, ethnography, linguistics, mythology, archaeology, and biology. It is published by the Ulster Institute for Social Research, which was presided over by Richard Lynn until his death in 2023.

For anyone unfamiliar Richard Lynn was an Ulster academic whose own 'research' focused on 'scientific' measurements of how the Irish are less intelligent than other European 'races'