Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

I don't think I've seen anyone called a peasant in real life or online. It would suggest someone from a rural area for one thing. I can think the immigration policy is one of those cases of attributing as malice that is actually a result of incompetence

I see Denmark mentioned as a country to follow as they like us can abstain from the EU migrant pact. The current government in Denmark is left of centre and a member of the Party of European socialists.

Can anyone explain to me in detail what is Denmark’s asylum policy? What are they doing that we are not? Could their policies work as well here?

O’Gorman is at the coalface and no doubt knows the full extent of what is really going on. I bet the scale of it all is far higher than the official figures. I think he was quite idealistic at the start but now that he knows the reality, maybe he’s become disillusioned. Also fed up that he was left to deal with it all on his own. I wonder is he horrified by his earlier intention to offer them all own door accommodation.

They don't need credits for dole

Laughing their **** arses off at the Irish. That's where.

I doubt it. He's a Green Party TD who are a one issue party and who have demonstrated again (as they did last time they were let at the controls) that they have no idea of how their fantasy idealism and ideologically driven ideas could work in the real world.

Catherine Martin and her handling of the RTE mess is another example of this.

They should definitely be criticised for how slowly they have responded to the crisis and for using hotels to accommodate them.

Having said that, some of the protests at least been out of order. That place Crooksling for example is up in the Dublin mountains in the middle of nowhere and with no houses nearby.

The sindo must have worked really hard to find a picture that wasn't a load of African lads for this headline

It does raise the question how a woman was there? I thought it was all men camped outside since city west for reserved for women and kids. I'm actually shocked to see a woman and kids were tented on mouth street. Unless now the sindo need to issue an apology in next weeks paper that the photo used was a lie and out of context of someone who wasn't tented on Mount St

A review from a questionable journal invalidates the report itself? I’m doubtful of that, regardless, the Danish Government commissioned a report with findings that reflect the Dutch report, with that in mind, I’d be interested in the objection to the content of the report itself, or of the Danish report instead.

I'm sure the economics department of the University of Amsterdam will be surprised to learn that they are a couple of Dutch racists.

The Danish model is designed to disincentivise economic migration and the secondary movement of migrants through policies of deterrence including increased thresholds for protection, reduced processing times, reduced protection time-limits, limited access to the labour market, limited access to welfare, increased use of detention, increased deportation, limited family reunification etc. The model is described as the Danish model because Denmark intentionally publicised the policy, deliberately advertising to migrants the limited provisions they would receive as asylum seekers in Denmark, that said, it is essentially used in multiple EU Member States and EEA members, including Sweden and Norway. For example, Sweden increased the threshold for protection by limiting leave to remain - a lesser form of protection - to children or families with children; Norway increased the threshold for protection by legislating for refusal of asylum and deportation based on the principle that there are ‘safe’ regions or provinces in an asylum seeker’s country of origin. Considering the Sunday Independent/ Ireland Thinks poll reported that 40% of those polled would favour replicating the Rwanda Policy, I expect a majority would favour adopting policies of deterrence.

It seems up to October 2023 just under 1,000 people were refused leave to land and removed. So yes, to claim "practically none are deported or returned today" is simply wrong. I also can't actually find evidence to back up the claim that 3,700 peolle were refused leave to land and removed in 2011. In 2012 1,890 were refused entry to the state and removed. In 2010 3031 were refused leave to land, I can't get figures on how many were removed though. So 3,700 in the 2011 seems a huge anomaly.

Ok I get it now, those figures aren't from the daily debate they're from your own calculations.

I do think we spend far too much on IPAs, resorting to using hotels is ridiculous, but par for the course with FFG, who I expect to see back in power after the GE but supported by some anti-immigration independent grouping.

But I would need them?

The Tories will love getting their hands on these images as the week goes on and more people arrive.

Meanwhile our lot will be bumbling around clueless.