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Can you change a wheel?

  • 06-05-2024 4:49pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,258 ✭✭✭


    I saw that a driver had a flat tyre on her Audi yesterday. I stopped, and put on the spare for her. Fortunately it was an older car with a full-size spare, plus a jack & other hardware. And I got her on her way with many kind thanks, etc.

    She told me that she had gestured and asked 12+ other drivers to help before me, she was mostly ignored and some just laughed at her.

    Now 'in my generation' there would have been a queue of lads to help this woman. I find it disappointing that other drivers would leave her there.

    Having done a bit of research, I think the majority of motorists nowadays are unable to change a wheel. Their only option is to phone the AA.

    So I am wondering (1) can you change the wheel on you car, and (2) would you stop to help another driver change a puncture.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭TheSunIsShining


    Yes I can change a wheel - had to do so 2 weeks ago.

    Yes I would stop to help someone if I saw them stuck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭This is it


    Yes I can, and yes I have stopped, but it's probably dependent on the situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,577 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    yep unless it's not got a spare but then you can't change a wheel. ( electric jack and impact wrench in boot , electric puump and jump start battery)

    yep helped people a few times



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,764 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Yes and probably yes depending on the clobber I was wearing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭wildwillow


    Been driving for fifty years and have had about 6 punctures which I always changed. Carried a bar to use as lever to undo wheel nuts. Always carried a mat and torch too. Have changed tyres on two occasions for an elderly lady, both of whom were surprised a woman could change a tyre.

    No point in learning now. I don't even have a spare, just a pump which I don't trust. And it's almost impossible to undo the wheel nuts.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,715 ✭✭✭blackbox


    Why did the woman not change it herself?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,430 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I can change a wheel, but haven't done it for years

    I've no spare in the car, but I do have repair plugs. Haven't used them in anger and hopefully never will, but I guess I'll learn by doing if it comes to it

    A lot of new cars don't have spares anyway. They also often have security bolts on the wheels, they're supposed to have the nut to remove them, but owners often don't know where they are or they've gone missing

    Would I stop to help someone change a wheel? Honestly I probably wouldn't run up and volunteer, I'd probably end up as a piece on the news that way. But if someone asked me to help I'd try to help unless I'm looking after the kids solo or something

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭User1998


    Honestly I probably wouldn’t change a spare wheel for someone because I absolutely hate the job and I wouldn’t want the responsibility being on me if the car or wheel was damaged in the process or fitted incorrectly. In that scenario I would have re inflated their tyre to get them to a tyre shop.

    I think a lot of people don’t realise that if you just top up your tyre to 40 PSI at the side of the road even a relatively bad puncture will stay inflated for long enough to get you to a tyre shop. Having a mini air compressor in the car is essential for me. I haven’t had to change a spare wheel for years. Obviously won’t work for blowouts but they are so rare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison


    indeed I remember years ago I showed a woman (a stranger who had a flat tyre) how to change her wheel - she probably thought I was nuts - she did say “I probably should be able to do this myself” which prompted me to show her😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Whocare


    Personally I wouldn't have bothered unless it was young lady or old woman if she was middle aged that her problem should have learned how change the wheel . I'm big believer of Let no good deed go unpunished



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,093 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Would you stop to help a man, OP?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,129 ✭✭✭kirving


    If I had the time, whether I'd stop or not depends on where the car was. Never ever change a wheel on the side of the road, especially not a right side wheel. It's just too dangerous, so pull off the road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    I can change a wheel no problem but if the nuts are very tight, I haven’t the strength to get them off. But I live rural so I know there’s always be someone to help me out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭csirl


    Yes and yes. Have changed a few tyres over the years. Current car has no spare - only one of those pump things. Would prefer a spare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭TheSunIsShining


    Link for educational purposes.....

    https://youtu.be/edfyMhk0oZo?si=FMs_-gFrwsSYs3oQ



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    Tbh the majority of women and plenty of older men simply wouldn't be strong enough to change a wheel on most modern cars.

    Loads of makes and models are notorious for the wheel nuts getting wild tight and wheels welding themselves to the hubs.

    Years ago I was fully suited and booted along with 3 other lads in an ix35 when we got a blowout. Had a horrid mission getting the wheel off the hub. Fortunately I still had a pair of decent leather runners thrown in the boot so I could kick the sh1te outta the wheel side to side to eventually loosen it.

    A decent straight wheel brace is a must too. I suffered once with the standard BMW E46 one. They were a pr1ck of a thing.

    In short even if plenty know the theory of how to change a wheel whether they're actually able to physically accomplish this is a different story.

    As above a mini 12v compressor is perhaps the best €30-40 anyone who does a bitta driving could spend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    I'll stop and help anyone. Have a lot of tools in the car that can help. But if my wife is with me and she see's someone at the side of the road needing help she'll tell me not to stop.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭creedp


    Yes and yes. Changed a wheel for an older woman on the side of the road a few weeks back. She had phoned a number of men in her family (the utopia of equality has a few years to go yet😀) but none free to come to her aid.

    Tbh a lot of people these days shudder at the thought of having to put smelly fuel in their cars so it's no wonder many don't like changing a wheel



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I can't drive, but in my life Ive changed three car tyres.

    It's not exactly rocket science.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    I've changed plenty of wheels. It's no problem unless the last person who went at it over-tightened the nuts. In that case there's no choice but to call for roadside rescue.

    In my current vehicle (Kangoo) the spare is very difficult to get at. It's under the van on the outside and you have to lower it using a nut in the floor of the van. It's in a wire cage thing which won't stay in place without a wheel in it unless you use a cable tie or something to hold it in place, which requires quite a lot of fiddling about under the van. It's almost impossible to put the damaged wheel in the wire cage on the roadside. Pain in the arse.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,225 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    If I had to change a wheel I could.

    I'd probably struggle with the wheel nuts tough.

    I generally have a compressor in the boot.

    I might stop and help somebody depending on the situation but I'd always have been told not to stop and help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,222 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I never had to

    I presume I could

    would I stop to assist ? ….. I’ve no idea. I think it’s a judgement call…. Location, time of the day / night, if night is it well lit ? are there other people around/passing ? am I solo or accompanied…..and if accompanied… by who ?

    Split second decision but If I had any concerns I’d leave it…. I’d be cautious before careless. The old saying ‘discretion is the better part of valour’ would probably apply but every situation is different. Have to judge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,430 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I think a lot of generally fit men would struggle as well. Was reading there that my car requires 120Nm for each wheel nut which is a pretty significant amount to try and undo

    The old trick is to use a length of metal pipe to increase the amount of leverage. Unlikely anyone carries a meter of pipe around in their boot though

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,430 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Ha yeah that was me too

    Ended up changing two wheels when I was 16 working in a petrol station and didn't even have a leaner permit

    Two people pulled in at various times with punctures and asked for help

    Had to get the boss out to show me where the jack point was on the car but otherwise I figured it out myself

    I presume the wheel stayed on long enough since neither person came back to yell at me 😂

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    I’m female and was born in 1961, and my father used regularly get me to change around the wheels in his Ford Consul to even out the wear between back and front tyres, also got me to set the spark plug gaps, clean them, clean the leads, distributor cap, coil, and apply a new coat of waterproof, apply Vaseline to battery terminals, change battery, replace water & antifreeze in the radiator, etc etc. there was little I didn’t know about old car engines because he got me involved good and early. I once was dating a college engineering lecturer, he hadn’t a clue how a car engine worked, lol and was mesmerised when I told a look under his bonnet.

    I have advanced MS now a simply wouldn’t have the strength and dexterity to do it but I could & would up to a couple of years ago changed a wheel for anyone. I used to go over to anyone with an issue with car starting back in the day when cars were not computers on wheels, and take a look to see if there was anything obvious to be resolved quickly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    Yes. Have done my own many times.

    I once changed one for a group of girls (early twenties) in the car park of Kildare Village. They weren't very appreciative - there was a mix of expectation and almost resentment (towards me!) that they couldn't do it themselves. I haven't changed one for strangers since, nor would I.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,430 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I'd second having a compressor, and get a decent one. I've found the cheap plastic ones don't seem to have enough power to inflate the tyres on my car

    One of the more annoying side effects of SUVs becoming popular is that they need more pressure to fully inflate the tyre

    I got a heavy duty one from Amazon Basics, it's somewhat chunkier than other compressors but is a great bit of kit and is a lot faster and quieter than the plastic ones

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭Field east


    yes and yes. Always remember when you see someone in distress/with a problem it could be a mother with a sick child , doing on an essential errand for an elderly person, an elderly person not having the strength to tackle the flat, someone with a condition that prevents them tackling the issue, etc, etc,etc,etc

    SOME POINTS from experience :-“

    (1) Use the flashers - especially at night time

    (2) carry and use the reflective triangle

    (3) pull well, well in off the road - especially if a right side flat.

    (4) if flat is noticed on a very bendy/ sharp corner of the road , rather than stopping on the spot drive ahead to a point where it is safe to park - even if you destroy the tube/tyre in doing so.
    (5) the longer the handle of the wheel nut wrench the easier it is to remove the nuts.

    (6) if the wheel is still totally jambed to the hub after having removed the nuts than bang the left and right side of the stuck wheel with the spare tyre or with something equivalent.
    (7) re 6 above be careful that the jack does not slip off its position. If something substantial is available put it under the car so that Ifa slip occurs you have at least some space to work with. If the spare tyre is used for that job then you could try belting the stubborn flat with the heel/sole of your foot - with your back facing the car

    (8) Apart from carrying a jack, wheel wrench with a good extension, a piece of timber to put under jack in case ground is soft, a properly inflated spare and A SET OF JUMP LEADS

    Safe and happy driving to all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭pavb2


    I had a flat tyre in the UK about 3 weeks ago on a Citroen Berlingo in a car park so no problem got car jacked up in 5 minutes. Got the socket for the security bolt and it refused to come off the socket just kept slipping, I think it had been over tightened when the tyre was previously changed in tyre shop.

    Called about 3 different tyre companies Kwikfit included none of them said they could help so even pumping the flat up and driving to a tyre place wasn’t an option. Went on line to find all sorts of suggestions including welding and heating the bolt with a burner. Called out a mobile tyre company they couldn’t get the wheel off either.

    In the end I was fortunate to find a local guy whose whole business was getting security wheel nuts off. Took him about 10 minutes start to finish including changing all the other security bolts for standard ones £40. I then drove on the spare 50 mph tyre to a tyre place and had a new one fitted.

    Puncture happened on a Friday afternoon I was back on the road Monday afternoon.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,973 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Well, considering I switch summer for winter tyres and back again every year, that makes it an minimum of 8 changes in any twelve-month period. But the average would be slightly higher, coz my motorhome tyres take a bit of a battering, and occasional punctures and blowouts are part of my regular driving experience. As I have the gear needed to sort myself out on the top of a mountain or back end of a valley, I'd help out anyone with a lighter vehicle … but the need has never arisen.

    That said, a couple of months ago SonNo.1 (can drive, but no license) was sharing the back of a truck with a large group of twenty-something-year-olds when the tyre went pop. He said he was the only one among them who knew how to change a tyre.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,396 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Changed a tyre on my last week, even with a extension bar I had to jump up and down on it just to get every nut loose, over tightened by garage with gun is the problem

    Couldn't see many women doing this better just phoning your insurance company break down service and get them to do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    wise advice, you sound exactly like my late Dad, all safety bases covered!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,715 ✭✭✭blackbox


    This unfortunately is a common problem. I always loosen the nuts and torque them properly after a visit to a tyre place.

    Obviously they are afraid of a claim of a wheel coming off more than of a complaint for being too tight.

    They have the equipment. I don't understand why they can't tighten to manufacturers specification.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    back in the day, without the security bolts etc, and with lighter cars, it was very doable for a woman (on account of physical musculature) or less muscular man to change a wheel. Any time I could I would take the opportunity of showing people how to do stuff (if they were physically able of course) rather than doing it for them. As a poster above said re an ungrateful bunch of girls in Kildare Village, people can sometimes get resentful or play helpless if they can’t do something themselves; therefore I like to see people empowered to do things themselves,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭Mo Ghile Mear


    This is my story too. I’ve changed my own wheels a few times but was fortunate enough that it didn’t happen too often. Over the years wheels got wider and heavier and I got a bit less agile so now I wouldn’t even attempt it. I’d ring my roadside assistance number and just wait for them. I can’t understand young fit women not knowing how to do it but I agree that the nuts might be too tight if you hadn’t a proper lever and even then you mightn’t budge them. And you need a proper pull-ups and old jkt in the boot to pull on over your clothes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,526 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Would a woman in her own want to be assisted by strange man nowadays?

    Years ago I would stop no problem to change a tyre for someone unable to, however nowadays if I'm travelling alone I won't stop to help a lone female



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭Meeoow


    I'm a woman, and I can change a car wheel. I know plenty of men who can't cage a wheel, or even check oil or coolant levels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Yes on both counts but I agree re comments on wheel nuts. They can be a hoor to shift with the standard crappy tool supplied with most cars.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,909 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    If another driver is alone on the side of the road and obviously in a spot of bother it's no harm to stop.

    Even if you can't physically help at least you are not leaving them prey to some of the very dodgy people who are out there.

    A bit of encouragement and friendly advice can be a help.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,093 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    A few posters above saying they changed a tyre at the side of the road - I wonder what size tyre levers they carry? 😀

    Agree on always carrying a 12V air compressor. I also carry a tyre plug set, as the tyre might not hold pressure long enough to drive very far.

    I have only had to change a wheel once in over 20 years (pothole blowout).

    Whereas many drivers might struggle to change a wheel, everyone able-bodied can and should check tyre pressures on a regular basis - but do they… ?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭surrender monkey


    I am woman and I can change a wheel I've also stopped to help another woman on the side of the road in torrential rain .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭bop1977


    i can change a wheel.

    i picked one of these up in Lidl a while ago and keep it in the center console. it has a tyre pressure gauge, seatbelt cutter. window breaker and tyre thread depth measuring stick



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭bigtimecharlie


    Yes I can change a wheel, but hope I don't have to do it on my car as I have no spare and use run flat tyres.

    Was in a shopping center car park last week, AA attending a 241 car for a tyre change. It was a female driver but I did wonder if she looked for help or just went with AA as part of the new car purchase.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,964 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Yes and yes. I have stopped for men and women to assist them.

    My mother, in her 70s couldn't change her wheel and got caught a couple of times, needing assistance. I bought her an electric Jack thing, and a longer bar, she can do it now. I would still like to think someone would stop to help her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,093 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭almostover


    Always carry a breaker bar and 19 & 21mm sockets in my car. Along with jump leads. Personally I think it should be illegal to be able to sell a car without a spare wheel, even if just a space saver.

    Should also be part of the driving test to be competent in checking the condition of one's car before setting off. Thread depth, washer fluid, oil, coolant etc. Granted the former two don't apply to EVs. Should also have to change a wheel as part of driving test. Safely identifying your car as broken down (warning triangle), safely jacking it up and changing a wheel should be part of the test.

    Had had to change punctures on my own car a few times. Finding a safe place to do so is the most important thing. Level ground and out of harms way from oncoming traffic. Changed a wheel for some nice ladies down West Cork a few years ago and had an awful job trying to refuse the €20 they were offering me! It's a nice turn to do for someone if practicable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭almostover


    Garages tightening wheel nuts with an impact gun drives me nuts. I now go to 1 tyre place only for my tyres, main reason being that they give a sh1t and use a torque wrench to cinch down the wheel nuts to the appropriate spec.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭mulbot


    It's a bit shocking that people here don't routinely check wheel nuts,for being too loose or too tight. Was common to be taught this when I learned to drive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,258 ✭✭✭deandean


    Good question. Probably not, I reckon any man who can't change a wheel etc etc. But this case was a woman on her own, with kids, and a flat tyre.



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