Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

footage of the patriots from earlier, how many does that look like? 500? 1000? O Connell St footage looks like more.

The family were not granted asylum in any of the countries in which they lived, including Belgium where the little girl was born. They were recently threatened with deportation back to Iraq and the father was desperate to continue his children’s education in Europe. Seems all asylum systems are as disorganised as ours and migrants are caught in the mess for years on end. No sense of urgency at all with peoples lives put on hold - disinterest.? apathy? Inertia?

I think this will be very much like the Irish Water situation where there were protests and some very large ones but an even bigger number just refused to engage or register with them.

In this case I think their views will be reflected in the upcoming local/Euro elections

If they were not granted asylum, they should all have been deported. Instead, the parcel was passed and another EU member state has to waste yet more taxpayer money on feeding and accomodating the entire family and then waste resources on processing their application.

In reality, at these cost levels even the richest member states would be bankrupted at even low hundred thousands of illegal immigrants. That will put a natural brake on the process especially with the growing cost of an ageing population.

Asylum seekers and their offspring in future will continue to be a huge drain on the public purse so will be unaffordable. They also can't vote so only a crazy politician would prioritise them over their electorate.

As this debate proves, there isn't even one single coherent argument in favour of increased 3rd world migration. In hundreds of pages here, I haven't heard one anyway.

Without derailing the topic completely, water was already being paid for via general taxation and I believe some of the motor tax take (I stand to be corrected on the latter - it's been a while!)

What you are talking about is generally rural or one off housing where it's not economical to have a mains connection, and so residents have to indeed pay for their own supply - however, against that you generally have a bigger property, more land, less neighbours or traffic, lower comparative purchase costs etc.

The water charge protests were a reflection/protest of the complete farce that was the write offs, the O'Brien involvement, the arrogance from Hogan and others, the waste in the setup, the forcing of meters on residents with Garda escorts etc.

They were rightly defeated in an almost unknown showing of solidarity and civic responsibility of engaging with the process and letting the politicians know exactly where people stood.

Like then, it was ignored and steamrolled on by the Government (many of whose members are still in Government now) until it became untenable, but we're rapidly approaching the same tipping point on this issue as we'll see in the next few weeks I reckon.

Not good for us being mentioned in so many articles in the UK media as a means of onward progression

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/07/asylum-seekers-hide-or-flee-to-ireland-to-avoid-uk-rwanda-detentions

The Tories are really going for the jugular with this.

They want those images of increaeingly sprawling tent cities around Dublin. They will play very well with the electorate.

I don't blame them really. The French have been refusing to take back the illegal immigrants crossing from Calais so why should the Tories take them back from us.

Ireland is the end of the line for these chancers unless they fancy Iceland maybe!

Funny you mention patriots… There were approximately 2500 active participants during the Easter rising and that brought about monumental change for this island.

Not sure why your so hung up on numbers but since you are maybe refer to the recent opinion polls around this subject.
Here’s an Irish times one as I’m nearly certain everything else will be a rag/right wing propeganda/gutter press:

https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/02/26/immigration-and-housing-are-the-dominant-issues-for-voters-poll-finds/

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During Covid, we saw what can be done by the Government. They're paid large salaries and pensions and have billions of Euro to spend on this issue. If they can't solve an issue like this then we need to vote in people who will do whatever it takes to solve it.

Ireland is the end of the line in the EU, we just need to be one of the least attractive countries for economic migrants in Europe and they will stop coming.

At European level, there needs to be radical actions taken that we haven't seen before and which will be heartily supported by the vast majority of Europeans who are sick of this circus.

The message needs to go out that Europe is closed to illegal immigrants but open to skilled migrants who apply through the proper channels.

Have to say I agree. I wouldn't want to be associated with the kind of flag-waving, far right nationalism that one sees in some mainland European countries, especially as it often attracts skangers, thugs, low-lifes and the pig-ignorant whose general values, such as they are, don't represent the majority of Irish people.

Having said that I absolutely abhor what's going on with illegal immigration. The government is destroying - for all its faults - our essentially peaceful, beautiful and unique little country.

On Friday there were 40 tents on he Grand Canal, by Sunday it was 70 and this morning there are 80. Even if these people are moved into some kind of accommodation, more will come. Tents on the street, filled with foreigners of dubious origin and vast cultural difference, will become a feature of Irish city life.

We've had our own homeless and street people for decades. But they are for the most part ordinary Irish people who ended up on the street through alcoholism and mental health issues. You'd get the odd aggressive shouter but on the whole they were harmless. This plague of tents is something else entirely.

I’m sure your information is accurate but where can we read about the circumstances of this family ?

I myself cannot understand how these people can afford to move from country to country , sounds like a very expensive thing to do .

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It would be impossible to protest in that case. These actual racist scum will always turn up. So how do you peacefully show the Government your dissatisfaction with their immigration policy.?