Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Don't see how it is any more a pea take than those from Nigeria ( biggest by far) Pakistan, Bangladesh and Jordan.

And that is by no means an exhaustive list.

Vote? Thing is the anti immigration people going for euro and local elections seem to be people you wouldn't want anywhere near politics

Yes obviously but voting only comes around every few years so what do you do to protest in the meantime. Its unfortunate but can't prevent them people showing up. It seems if its right leaning protest its demonised but left wing protests applauded. And yesthem far right people haven't a hope of getting elected.

Impossible to stop, that's my point but can't tar all with the same brush. IF a racist says the sky's blue, doesn't make it untrue because a racist said it.

€113.80 per week for International Protection Applicants without accommodation, that's €75 more than IP applicants who have accommodation..

Maybe they made a mistake and meant an extra €75 on their weekly allowance which would bring it up to €178.80 but they definitely said €75 added to their daily allowance which would make it €638.80 a week.

It wouldn't surprise me if it was daily to give them the ability to pay for a bed for the night. Of course they'd rather pocket the money and sleep rough.

After a lot of time spent reading this thread, I think a quota is the solution.

We're in a position where the far left refuse to consider any concerns and attack anyone who might be upset in any way as far right. Then we have a position here that I don't see in real life yet where Islamophobia and sectarianism is becoming acceptable.

A quota of 15,000 per year would probably be workable. Assuming 50% are non genuine, that would mean processing 30,000 per year. That could be 15,000 per half year with people told to return the next half. I could imagine a huge surge in January/ July but a significantly lower likelihood of people rough sleeping in a queue. Who wants to queue for five months.

That 15,000 would include whatever family might be replicated by a refugee or former refugee too.

If there were exceptional circumstances such as Ukraine, a referendum would be required to increase the number for one year maximum

Whatever legislation needs to be changed, do it and move on.

I was away for a weekend. This has been dominating the national conversation too long and is toxic. The above is a workable non racist solution.

In tandem, housing needs to be sorted. End of

Yes that is correct but if you don't believe me take a look at the report on the VM news at 5:30 yesterday, at the end of the piece they 100% said

"those who are not provided with accommodation and are eligible will receive a temporary increase of €75 to their daily expense allowance."

If they're getting an increase they're already getting the €113.80 as they've not been provided with accommodation. As far back as January I can remember hearing on the news that adult male IP applicants were being given a tent and €113.80 a week.

There will be gardai there, they can make it clear to them that the far right activists are not part of the official protest and they can be separated by distance, or a garda line, if required.

If you don't want them speaking, you don't let them, organisers are in charge of the speakers at these events

Sounds so easy.

They get €33.80 a week so a temporary increase of €75 brings them to €113.80 a week.

Yes it's been like that for months, but as soon as they have accommodation, they payment drops back down to €33.80 a week.

It's only being mentioned again because of all the tents. If they house everyone and a few weeks later more tents appear, they will issue the same statement. Anyone not housed will get a €75 weekly increase. It's not another €75 on top of the €75 mentioned recently on top of the €75 from January etc....

There’s a big difference between working with and acting as bodyguards and forcibly removing people as you suggest

There's literally no way to know that yet. Even if they had Irish levels of criminality which they don't, you'd expect there to be some serious criminals in a random selection of 70 guys of that age. Wishful thinking from the left has gotten us to this mess so the same hare-brained nonsense won't get us out of it.

the whole problem now is that genuine refugees and genuine asylum seekers are missing out and at a disadvantage because of those you come as financial migrants . This is the absolute crux of the matter and that which is annoying people .
The Government has not addressed this nor have they ever made this point while the dogs on the street know this .
Absolutly should we shelter anyone fleeing persecution or war but my guess is about 90% of those arriving are not in that category .
The same goes for any nation including Ukrainians , genuine refugees from war torn parts of Ukraine need help those arriving from non affected areas or other countries absolutely not

This is the point where anyone I know is rightly peed off that the Government did not forsee this and deal with it .