Would you be in favour of Migrant checkpoints in Northern Ireland? - read OP before posting

How, it's actually pretty easy. You take their phone away and examine it. I'm willing to bet 5 minutes of examining the phones of these border hoppers would tell you exactly who they are, who their mates are, the trafficker's identity etc. If there's one thing that low IQ criminals have proved beyond a doubt, it's that they can't help themselves on social media.

There are no shortage of embassies in town that I'm sure could provide consular assistance and issue the poor unfortunate and careless individual with a new passport for the one they 'lost'. And as I pointed out, they hide nothing, you get their social media, you will know exactly who they are and what they're up to as they will be communicating it all to friends and family.

Do you think there's no room for improvement on the current set up?

Like most things in the civil service there's likely a big issue with man power and general resources causing a lot of delays.

In the case of the people being discussed in this thread, those coming from the UK via Northern Ireland, they should have some claim of asylum with the UK system that they should be willing to share details of with officials in Ireland.

Put simply, if an asylum seeker has been in the UK system and refuses to share information of their application in the UK with Irish authorities they should be deported with immediate effect.

Nobody is winning with how things work currently, our system is creaking under the weight of the number of people arriving here and those people are being shoved into tents in the meen time.

Genuine asylum seekers aren't and never have been the issue, if somebody comes here and is gaming the system they need to be made ann example of in order to deter any more chancers taking advantage of us, it will improve things for everyone.

Yes. No doubt - we should have physical check points with detention centres, and we should have roving teams of border guards working 24/7 across the length of the border.

Border checks on border with NI or in NI will not work if we still throw out welcome mat.

We also can't force another jurisdiction to do something about the ones we would refuse entry.

Besides the border checks would be unenforceable on our current border.

The ultimate solution is to make ourselves so uninviting that no one wants to go to bother of coming in the first place and the ones already here want to leave.

That means we introduce internment, lets try an island off West coast.

I nominate one of the ones in Galway (mind you not Inisbofin as lovely place with nice people) or Blaskets in Kerry.

No chance of citizenship ever, no working after few months, no social welfare of any kind, no revolving door taxpayer funded legal slush fund appeals system, no own door accommodation ever.

You get ticket to where ever you came from, to whoever has arrest warrant out for you or you go home - we will pay for it.

If you want asylum here you apply from refugee camp and we assess you like we did with Vietnamese boat people, etc.

You don't get to wander around half of Europe first.

Just for the hard of understanding around here…

This does not apply to normal decent VISA applicants who foolishly go to bother of getting skills and qualifications before applying for work visas or to those that apply for legitimate university courses.

Of course now to some I am a fascist worse than those in waffen SS Das Reich division.

Or hell maybe even as bad as one of those awful Australians.

Cross border buses and trains have had Gardai checks for several years south of the border before Dundalk.

The common travel area ONLY applies to UK/EU citizens. If you're from elsewhere it is NOT a common travel area.

It's a foreign country run by a corrupt foreign parliament in Westminster and with a local assembly full of bomb makers and religious zealots. Of course we should have customs controls on our border with Northern Ireland.

I believe that legally you don't need a passport with Ryanair for a flight to the UK. I don't know if you remember that far back but there was a time when ryanair accepted student ID's for flights to the UK. It's just company policy.

And you can hop on a ferry without one.

phones can be detected.

Just when I thought we put this behind us with Brexit, we once again find ourselves in "magic border" world — a world where a border can just be whatever you say it will be, and all you have to do is just believe hard enough and it will manifest itself.

A hard border for people but "soft for trading in goods". Right. OK.

Wow.

Agreed. A lot of unionists and far right people in Ireland backed by them would love a border. I don't think anyone else in Ireland would. Reunification seemed on track not that long ago but there certainly seems to be some smart forces working against it and establishing a border is one example of their attempts to further Unionism in Ireland in my view.

I don't think it's a stretch at all. It's being said far and wide across social media. There is a reason there has always been such a big attempt to bash Sinn Fein by these types. We know loyalists with a history behind them are supporting the far right here, sharing their stuff on social media and big question marks are there about how some of these far right guys are funded. I even saw some wearing the Orange Order attire "for the laugh" in some pictures. A lot of people in Ireland would need to be literally deceased before you'd be able to get that attire on them. People are connecting the dots. I think loyalists are having a good laugh at Paddy while they share the videos of protests and bash Sinn Fein at the same time. We all know the history. My dad was telling me that when he was younger the likes of Tommy Robinson wouldn't even be safe walking around parts of Dublin but now he's welcomed by those types with open arms which is crazy when you think about what he's done in relation to a soldier involved in Bloody Sunday. And now we get this push for a hard border. It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to start putting things together.

But it's not about illegal immigrants flowing through NI.

Illegal immigrants cross the border and don't make themselves known to the authorities.

We are taking about asylum seekers here, people who present themselves to the authorities and whom the authorities are obliged to help while their asylum claim is being processed.

The current forore is about the obviously visible asylum seekers living in tents because we can't accommodate them any more.

To most people the illegal immigrants that are here taking the jobs we don't want to do are grand compared to the guys looking for asylum.