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    #182
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122108300#Comment_122108300

    All depends on what side of the point of view you have. Totally.



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    #183
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,404 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Far left this, far right that, maybe if we all stopped with the American style labelling of everything it would help. It's an Irish website for god sake. I hate how it has invaded every single debate on the website in the past few years.

    Instead of making new rules just follow the current ones, attack the post not the poster and don't be a dick. If you don't like something someone said, report it and don't engage. Use a bit of bloody common sense!

    If you find a particular topic is very emotive for you maybe take a step back and have a think about whether it's worth spending time on the internet arguing with someone who has a polar opposite view of the topic than you do, you are never going to change their mind so why waste energy on it?

    If everyone was just a little bit more considerate and accepting that their own viewpoint wasn't the centre of the universe there'd be far less issues to be dealt with by the mods.



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    #184
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122108258#Comment_122108258

    Or polls saying three out of four think we've taken in too many refugees, are we all far right now, father?



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    #185
    Shoog
    Registered Users Posts: 4,914 ✭✭✭Shoog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122108330#Comment_122108330

    Your point ?

    We have all had thread bans for our behaviour at times, I ain't complaing and I find it a bit pathetic that the same faces keep on crying about it.



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    #186
    Boards.ie: Mike
    Boards.ie Employee Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Mike


    Hello all. Once again we find ourselves involved in a HELP DESK thread where we see users dragging in other topics, issues and personal gripes and it has run its course. The feedback, suggestions and comments have been heard and taken on board. This will not be allowed to become a current affairs thread that descends into name calling and bickering.

    I think that Necro has summed it up well in their last comment. The rules that currently govern the forums are there to help things run smoothly and ensure everyone is on the same page more or less, depending on how individuals interpret them and the moderators actions of course.

    If there are any other constructive points to be made this thread will remain open. If not I will close it.



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    #187
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122108471#Comment_122108471

    What a few posters have been trying to do.

    Probably no loss in closing it as IMHO I Don't think anything will be taken on board and it will just be the same as before.



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    #188
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122102500#Comment_122102500

    It was revealed in the latest Feedback thread that reporting a post counts as a discussion started by the user. If you click on their profile and they have a large number of discussions, but very few show, you can conclude that they either start a lot of threads in private groups (which are notoriously quiet), or they report a lot of posts.

    I know the posters you referred to earlier - shoehorning stock phrases into every thread, snide comments designed to get a reaction so they can report another poster, ridiculous quirks in their posting style, and backslapping one another on threads. Everyone knows who they are and their previous usernames, but they get away with it.

    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




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    #189
    tom23
    Registered Users Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭tom23


    Everyday a school day. Wow and wow.



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    #190
    Ryan of Enfield
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭Ryan of Enfield


    Passions running high but I see the occasional poster just making the single argument, time after time, and that's everyone on the opposing side is scum or a scumbag. Just my two cents worth but I would have thought that should be easy to moderate, even more so if its obvious in advance who the culprits are.



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    #191
    suvigirl
    Registered Users Posts: 7,580 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    Thread has just become another thread to rant about other posters without restrictions. Like all these threads



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    #192
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122108503#Comment_122108503

    Any idea what it means if you click on a users profile and it says you don't have access to the discussions



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    #193
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122108538#Comment_122108538

    Posts made in a Group (private forum on the old site) or reported posts.

    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




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    #194
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    You do not have any access to discussions on this page is All it says under the highlighted Discussions word of a poster.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122108552#Comment_122108552



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    #195
    TomTomTim
    Registered Users Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    Another great example of such bias was Nazi comparisons. Which were common on any threads about the "far right" or Trump, and totally tolerated. Yet during covid, anti restriction people started making similar comparisons to the other side. Eventually Beasty banned such comparisons on those threads, as they were being aimed at the righteous.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




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    #196
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users Posts: 12,400 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122108371#Comment_122108371

    I think pints are called for

    All Eyes On Rafah



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    #197
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122108597#Comment_122108597

    Yep, you need to have access to a private group to see any threads started there, or the mod forum where reported posts show.

    There was a discussion about this in the Feedback thread and an Admin clarified that reporting a post starts a discussion, as threads are now called, and that shows on your profile in the number of discussions. It even lead one poster to rapidly edit a post.

    I think serial reporting is a form of trolling and should be actioned, it's an incredibly underhanded way of ensuring your side of the argument dominates. Otherwise, it seems many people are too sensitive to leave the house.

    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




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    #198
    nullzero
    Registered Users Posts: 16,673 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122108471#Comment_122108471

    The only thing that needs to be considered is applying the rules evenly at all times.

    There is an untouchable class of posters on this site who are free to do as they like. Anyone else being a dick is already being dealt with, just round up the stragglers and nobody can complain.

    Glazers Out!



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    #199
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122108620#Comment_122108620

    Answers alot of what has been happening. IF ,Just say you had 100 hundred or so discussions and I could see them and i had maybe 62 discussions that are visible on my profile and i come across say ssomeone I can't access There discussions but they have say 500 discussions in total this could be serial reporting.



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    #200
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122108665#Comment_122108665

    Yes, the private groups are very quiet so it's most likely that most of the discussions you can't access are reported posts.

    The Mods obviously can't clarify, but unless anyone is spuriously reporting posts they shouldn't have a problem with their tally being known. I'd be happy for a Mod or Admin to list how many I've reported and how many were deemed actionable.

    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




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    #201
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122108687#Comment_122108687

    Thanks leg End, Absolutely can't thank you enough for the input. I clicked on the profile of a poster that alot of posters had suspicions about and seemed to get a wide Berth from the moderators. Itcertainly seems to all add up now. Can't thank you enough.



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    #202
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122108538#Comment_122108538

    Some people have their profiles set to private also,



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    #203
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122108746#Comment_122108746

    Yeah but it still shows the total of how many discussions. Very interesting counts for some



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    #204
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122108746#Comment_122108746

    No longer possible on Vanilla because Mods can't view a private profile, all are open by default now.

    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




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    #205
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    Hopefully Mike doesn't close this thread yet. After what leg End has stated it could be possible that a few posters sole aim was to serial report other posters to have them removed or banned so it became a one sided discussion. Also surely the moderators should of been suspicious and copped on what was happening. Let's hope that the thread is kept open to clear this up.



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    #206
    supermans ghost
    Registered Users Posts: 200 ✭✭supermans ghost


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122108630#Comment_122108630

    I would echo nullzero’s sentiments here, there is one particular poster who is based in the US (apparently) and who seems to have a fetish for starting threads on an Irish forum to rant at right wing politics in the USA. The same poster seems to get away with personally attacking posters who disagree with their opinion without sanction.

    If the moderators are not exercising some degree of impartiality in applying sanctions, then people will just go elsewhere and the website will die a slow death.(I suspect it already is)

    It’s a pity,because it used to be a great site.



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    #207
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,724 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    The frequency with which any one individual poster makes use of the report system is a bit of a red herring. Something being reported does not lead to mod action, particularly in CA.

    Someone reporting a lot of posts for weak reasons does nothing except annoy the mods.

    Reported posts are reviewed and not actioned all the time, particularly in CA. I have no stats, but I would guess that a lot more posts are deemed not worthy of action than posts were action is taken.



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    #208
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122109088#Comment_122109088

    Thanks for the reply. Why would someone want to report non stop, what do you think they were trying to do. Surely it would flag something was seriously fishy about maybe hundreds of reports.



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    #209
    Packrat
    Registered Users Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭Packrat


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122108687#Comment_122108687

    Yeah, But you're not one of these vexatious bad faith posters who are being complained of here.

    Locks only keep out honest people.

    There's about 8 or 10 of these individuals who are wrecking CA in particular.

    I'd bet they wouldn't be happy to see their report stats being visible.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122108471#Comment_122108471

    This will just go round and round with the mods insisting there's nothing to see here, until the makeup of the mod team becomes more balanced. It's like the reverse of the US Supreme Court.

    This carry on of "we have investigated ourselves and found ourselves to be correct" is also problematic.

    When every mod and most of the Admins are of the same worldview as the problem posters, then they get to have total home rule.

    This attitude of 'the beatings will continue until morale improves' won't and can't work.

    Action those 8 or 10 posters properly and balance the mod team.

    It's really that simple.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



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    #210
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122109088#Comment_122109088

    I don't think anyone thinks that every reported posts is automatically sanctioned, but a serial reporter isn't just annoying mods, they are using the report function to try to silence opposing views.

    It's a form of trolling and should be actioned. It would do no harm to post an on thread warning using the @ function and tell the repeat offenders to stop or they'll be thread banned. I've seen it done in some forums and it stops a lot of nonsense.

    And, I'll repeat, anyone who is genuine about reporting should have no problem with others knowing they've reported posts.

    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




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    #211
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122109256#Comment_122109256

    I'd bet they wouldn't be happy to see their report stats being visible.

    I agree, that's why I think they should be called out. It's insidious and petty behaviour designed to annoy and shut down others.

    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




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