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Starlink - Anyone get it yet?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,119 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    As I've just pointed out in my edit above Amazon have the ethernet adaptor but its cheaper direct from Starlink. Cables seem to be cheaper on Amazo but you might end up with quality issues. There are also a few PoA adaptors available so you can do away with the main Starlink WiFi box but so far reviews don't seem very favorable.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32 TWIreland


    Thanks for taking the time. Appreciate the the help.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32 TWIreland


    Have any of you guys setup with a deco mesh network? How have you found it and which model did you go with?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭FastFullBack


    Yes deco m5, works perfect with Starlink



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,119 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,822 ✭✭✭micks_address




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭CivilEx


    I've been running my Starlink setup for over a year with a mixed system (three Deco M9 and one M5). My Sky primary and secondary boxes run over this network too. I have the ethernet adaptor running to a tp-link network switch connected to the first M9 Deco and the Sky box. After that, each Deco runs via a mesh network. The house has hollowcore concrete floor slabs, so it took a while to find the "sweet spot" for each of the deco units to get good overall house coverage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,119 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    OK so I've been a bad boy ;-) Just got a Starlink support request that links to me torrenting something with a Paramount copyright.

    So couple of questions as a result.

    Anyone else had this? Interested if Starlink actively do anything. The report request was just opened then closed by Starlink.

    Then next obvious question can anyone recommend a good VPN to use on Starlink? Just about to sign up with NordVPN if no one has any better ideas?

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭FastFullBack


    Thats very interesting. Been on SL 8 months now using IPTV and never got a message like that. Any time I download any torrent I put on a VPN.

    I'm using Private Internet Access and they always have large discount codes on topcashback.co.uk. I think there is a recent thread on boards about it but I can't find it now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,119 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Seemed worth mentioning as its the sort of thing that people don't always shout about. Tossing up between NordVPN and PIA as we speak but PIA seems the better deal.

    OK went for PIA €51.74 for 3 years and 3 months.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,119 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    For anyone interested in a VPN for starlink then this is a speedtest at 9:40 on a weekday morning. In the evening the speedtest on the VPN drops off to between 80 and 120Mbps.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    And here is a speed test on ProtonVPN over Starlink at 13:12 …

    Slightly better than the one I ran last night…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,119 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Just got this in the post

    Its a handy mount for the starlink base unit. Not bad at the current price of £3.37

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CLLNZRWS

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,822 ✭✭✭micks_address


    thats good value.. i got a 3d printed one from etsy and it cost nearly 25 euro… nice to be able to tuck it out of the way



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,119 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    I got a wake up call when ours fell off its shelf onto a concrete floor.

    Now I'm on the look out for something to hold the ethernet adapter.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,822 ✭✭✭micks_address


    the one i got had built in holder for the ethernet adapter as well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,119 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    That would have been ideal. I think I linked to it before but the cheapest I can find for just the ethernet adapter is this

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CCJ8TZWZ

    for just over a tenner. Its on my wish list and if it comes down in price I'll get it. Certainly not as important as the main base unit mount.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users Posts: 696 ✭✭✭Stewball


    I got that one of Amazon too. It's nice and tidy.

    Great value at €4. I paid close to €20 for it a few months ago.



  • Registered Users Posts: 474 ✭✭pms7




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  • Registered Users Posts: 474 ✭✭pms7


    Notice the ethernet adaptor is not available on the website??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,111 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I think you can only order it when you order a starlink. It's hidden until then. I couldn't order them together as example. Only after I had the starlink and registered it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 474 ✭✭pms7


    ya I see its in the shop, but last week it was on order page with dish and cable



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    I wonder will this be the first significant Geomagnetic activity to affect SL?

    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/specialist-forecasts/space-weather

    Expected impact for the UK:

    Power systems: No significant impact on UK power grid likely.

    Spacecraft operations: Surface charging may occur on satellite components, drag may increase on low-Earth-orbit satellites, and corrections may be needed for orientation problems.

    Other systems: Intermittent GNSS(GPS) satellite navigation and low-frequency radio navigation problems may occur, HF radio may be intermittent. Aurora may be seen in Scotland and Northern Ireland and as low as Mid-Wales and the Midlands.

    It looks like Aurora could be visible across the country, particularly tonight, if the skies are clear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    Well then, my Starlink app is showing degraded service:

    Looking at the statistics, there was a reboot at 4:17am and then a few brief outages:

    However, if I click the 0.1s+ … there's a few dozen 0.5s-0.9s outages since 4:17am.

    I wasn't wrong about the Aurora … 😋



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭mossie


    Probably due to the solar storm activity



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,119 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Yeah loads of minor outages last night. My son was streaming most of the night on Youtube and he noticed a few very minor slow ups I assume when there was no connection for half a second or so. Checking the log of outages there certainly were far more than usual if you check the outages less than 2 seconds - maybe 50 or more.

    Currently there is a report of a Degraded service - Our team is investigating …..

    The really interesting thing is that Dishy was Searching and rebooting at EXACTLY the same time as your log shows. - I'm in West Waterford.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭Bellie1


    I know I should read through the entire thread. I guess just want reassurance. We are planning on moving to countryside but a few properties we've fallen in love with don't have fibre and aren't on the nbi rollout plan. We both work from home but only stream Netflix etc. Worst nightmare is to buy house,move in and find internet not sufficient.If we are really interested in a house, should we download starlink app and see if the house can get decent speeds? Also as a backup plan for occasional starlink outages see if can get 5g coverage on any network so can hotspot phone or have a router with Sim. Are we secure enough then? It's stressful enough planning to move, be great if we could know what to check for wrt connectivity so guaranteed to be ok



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,119 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Don't worry Starlink will work perfectly for you.

    Neighbors both work from home and Starlink has been a game changer for them previously they only had "traditional" satellite connection. We also have starlink and my son "works" each night streaming on youtube.

    Edit> Not related to starlink but if you are getting any property out in the sticks check the mobile coverage.

    Post edited by The Continental Op on

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,822 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Agreed.. we have it and two people working at home zoom, teams etc and not a problem.. netflix, streaming everything and gaming.. never a bother



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭dam099


    If not on NBI rollout plan then either the house

    • can get >30Mpbs (not great these days)
    • are on an ISP's fibre rollout plan
    • have been overlooked

    For the latter one you can contact Department of the Environment, Climate and Communications

    https://secure.dccae.gov.ie/forms/NBP-Customer-Service.aspx

    Starlink should be an adequate stopgap in the meantime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,119 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Starlink is far more than an adequate stopgap. If we do ever eventually get fixed line broadband I won't be rushing to sign up the minute its available. In fact the only thing that would make me change to a fiber would be if it was significantly cheaper. At €50 a month starlink is currently a very good deal.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,111 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Blah, I have starlink its can't compete with the the pings or capacity of fibre.

    It's very good don't get me wrong. It's not fibre at all. Il drop it as soon as fibre knocks on my door next year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,822 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Agreed it has on average 40ms ping versus low teens of fibre but honestly you'd be hard pushed to tell the real world difference.. I ran it side by side with virgin 1gb and no one in the house could tell the difference.. online gaming at elite level is probably where it makes a difference but for FIFA or gaming like that out son has never batted an eye lid ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭digiman


    Does anyone have a good IP telephone solution with Starlink where you could port your landline number across to it and pay a minimal fee each month. Parents want to keep their landline phone number but not much point in keeping the landline in just for that. They will get NBI in 2026 so would like to be able to port back to it again when it's live



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭mossie


    I would highly recommend Starlink from my few months experience of it. NBI is gone to pre-order on my road so I will be moving over but I would have been happy to use Starlink long term if not for this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭Bellie1


    Thanks for the reassurance. tried using the app there at home out of curiosity(we're in suburbs) and got 78% max by moving the phone around. Do you have to aim for 100% or how does it work?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    Dishy needs a fairly clear view of the sky, particularly the southern sky. This is my current obstruction checker:

    I have a line of trees, about 5m away, blocking the North Eastern view of the sky for my dish.

    I presume the 78% score is something the app is telling you for it's check of the sky. I guess getting it closer to 100% will give you a more stable connection. If there are obstructions, it may mean that occasionally your dish might not see a satellite crossing over for a short period (secords, rather than minutes).

    As to the need for a 5G backup … I often have 4 hour long Webex sessions which have never been interrupted by an SL failure. I have not needed to switch over to a hot-spot in over 15 months at this stage.

    When NBI gets to me, I will be switching, but I will likely keep SL as a backup.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭Bellie1


    Ok so if it's seconds rather than minutes that's great. Wherever we move to,wanted to have lots of trees but that would mean putting the starlink receiver on the roof I guess



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,119 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Don't forget starlink is pretty much looking straight up less a few degrees. Neighbors like us are in a valley and to the West of their dishy is the side of the valley. If you take a line from dishy to the high point on the hill its about 45 degrees. They have perfect coverage. Our roof ridge to the south only gives dishy 45 degrees of sky and we have perfect coverage. So I'm fairly happy that 45 degrees all around will give a reasonable coverage.

    Its interesting that dishy ignores our telephone line which runs right over it and 4 meters above it. Locating dishy would have been a problem if the telephone line messed it up.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭CivilEx


    I have a solution in place through Irishvoip.com which predates my current Starlink installation and it works fine. I think I originally put it in place in 2017 - a Gigaset 620A IP Voip DECT handset, an old product by today's standards no doubt, where I allowed the Eir line to go dead at that point of porting to IrishVoip. About €20 per year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    I don't have Starlink myself but two members of my family have it. My SIL works from home for a multinational and replaced their old Bigblu satellite broadband and landline phone/broadband with Starlink last July.

    They ported over the landline phone to irishvoip.com, with ATA, no issues to report in almost 11 months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,048 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Question for all the SL users here, is it OK to buy used equipment from someone privately and then get a subscription from Starlink yourself?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,119 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Not done it but yes Starlink provide the means to do that. With the current cost of the equipment I'd question if it was financially viable option unless the equipment was almost free.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    Starlink facilitate those type of transactions.

    From Starlink Support:

    How do I transfer my Starlink hardware ownership?

    Please read all information below prior to transferring Starlink hardware:

    Starlink is not responsible for the condition of kits sold or transferred by third-parties. 

    The Starlink Kit must be delivered and all orders and services on your account need to be fully paid with no outstanding balance. 

    Your service must be cancelled in order to transfer Starlink hardware. 

    Upon transfer, the Starlink is removed from your account permanently, service will stop immediately, and any remaining days of your service period will be lost.

    The Starlink recipient is responsible for signing up for service on Starlink.com. Service is subject to availability - see starlink.com/map. Availability varies by service offering (Standard, Mobile, etc). Activation is not currently available for Maritime accounts.

    Upon activation, the new user will be charged for the first month of service and can begin using right away.

    The warranty period for the Starlink kit is from the date of the original retail purchase from Starlink or its Authorized Reseller. The warranty period does not start over for kits sold or transferred by third-parties. End-users should verify that the Starlink kit is in working condition prior to purchasing from third-parties. See starlink.com/legal/warranty

    Starlink kits are certified per country. End-users are responsible for complying with local requirements. Starlink may restrict certain services to the country where Starlink or its Authorized Resellers originally sold the device, as required.

    The account must be in good standing and paid in full.

    • Transferring Services is not available until 120 days after you purchased your Starlink Kit, or 90 days after you activated your Starlink Kit, whichever comes first.Note: if it has been 120 days since you purchased your Starlink from an authorized retailer and are having trouble transferring your Starlink, reach out to Starlink Customer Support and attach your reciept of purchase for further assistance.

    How to transfer your Starlink:

    From Starlink.com, log into your Starlink account.

    Under "Your Starlinks" select "Manage" next to the Starlink you would like to transfer.

    On the left-hand side, click "Cancel Service". You must be cancelled prior to transfer.

    Under "Devices", find Starlink and click "Transfer" and confirm conditions - this will permanently remove the Starlink from your account. 

    (Optional) Enter the new owner's email address to send an activation email. If you do not wish to enter an email address, click "Close" to finish.

    Factory reset your router to its original settings.

    Provide all items in your Starlink kit to the new user. Starlink is not responsible for the condition of kits sold or transferred by third-parties. 

    • Provide a Starlink Identifier to the new party for activation. 
      • Kit Serial Number: Located on the Starlink Kit shipping label (ex. KIT00000000) Example of Starlink shipping label
      • Dish Serial Number: (refer to specific Starlink Hardware Type)Starlink Standard: Located on the back of the Starlink Dish near the connector port (ex. SN: 2ABC000000000000)Standard Actuated: Located on the bottom of the Starlink mast (ex. SN: 2ABC000000000000)High Performance Starlink: Located on the bottom of the Starlink Mast similar to the Standard Actuated Dish (ex. SN: HPCP000000000000)Flat High Performance Starlink: Located on the back of the Starlink Dish near the connector port (ex. SN: HPCP000000000000)
      • Terminal ID: While connected to your Starlink internet, open the Starlink app, tap "Settings", then "Advanced". Look at the "ID" under "STARLINK" section. Enter the number without the "ut" in front. (ex. 00000000-00000000-00000000)

    Communicate to the new user that they can sign up for service using the activation link you emailed to them, or can sign up for service on starlink.com using the provided Starlink Identifier to activate the Starlink hardware. See the activation FAQ for more information.

    How to activate a Starlink:

    If you have already purchased a Starlink, see how to activate service for your Starlink here.

    Recommended Topics:

    What is a Starlink Identifier?

    How do I activate my Starlink?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,048 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Thanks for replies.

    I was looking at one for £150 from uk. But I see you can get refurb on Starlink website for €150.

    I only plan to use this until fibre arrives late 2025, so trying to minimise cost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,119 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Don't forget to add on an ethernet adaptor if you need to connect dishy to your own router. Thats an extra €40. afaik all the refurbs are gen 2 dishies without a build in ethernet adaptor.

    https://shop.starlink.com/products/ie-consumer-ethernet-adapter-gen2

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,048 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    HAs anyone here rented the equipment?

    I see this option is €60 per month, 50 for service, 10 for equipment. I take it you still get the same service everyone else gets?

    Not sure whether I should rent equipment or not. If I buy for £150, I could always sell it on next year when I get fibre. Or I assume Starlink just take the equipment back next year when I'm done with it.

    Another question re: router. Can you use your own router, or are you advised to use the Starlink one. The guy seling for 150 Inc an ethernwt adaptor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,119 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    I'm renting. No idea how you go about returning the equipment but as I might not be in the house is 6 months time it seemed daft to buy it. Chances are in another year there will be new updated equipment anyway. If you rent you still need to buy the ethernet adapter.

    Service is as I've reported here. I get around 200Mbps much of the time. Goes to below 100Mbps the odd time but normally only peak times in the evening and overnight and early morning it can go over 400Mbps. Only had it a few months but download average is about 1.5TB a month.

    You can put the Starlink router in bypass mode and have it directly link to a router but I just live with double NAT and route through both Starlinks and my own router.

    https://www.spacelink-installations.co.uk/blog/starlink-bypass-mode/

    Edit> don't forget you'll get hit for VAT if you buy from the UK :-(

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,048 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I have an NI address if buying equipment myself 2nd hand.

    Also, if renting I'd use my Irish address as its coming up as €60 per month including equipment rental which is reasonable.



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