Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

This is the issue with the save the world mentality here and in government. It's not about where we put them, it's about stopping them coming in.

Logic in any right mind would seek an emergency review of words from 1952 that apparently govern this invasion. Failing that we should be looking to emulate and learn from a fellow "rich" country with a successful model. Third and most obvious would be more deterrents like less funding (yet our government seem to be giving more). Fourth I might just stick Nigeria on the safe country list.

Answer me this, if the government bought 1k beds tomorrow to house the tented IPAs, is that problem solved? Do the IPAs stop coming in? Is the tent situation gone forever? Why are we funding the government tender to purchase private accommodation 2025-2028?

This problem doesn't end until an honest conversation (and not the Helen "honest") is had

People with no documents should be detained first and foremost in a holding area or otherwise for processing.

Letting them into the general public is asking for trouble.

As we see from Cork prison where a fella has shown up under 27 different names.

people have been camping there for weeks now, don't think it's migrants

Not sure if any deterrents the EU can legally provide would be enough to stem the flow.

There's one question even the Pro-Migrant brigade can't answer, and that's "Why"… Why are thousands of migrants trekking thousands of KM's to come to our little Island on the very edge of Europe?

Detention in the key thing in all of this for me - or let’s say a loose detention with a check in every x days process. It’s bizarre that these folks can move around so free - it seems like they can move around more easily than EU/UK citizens can move around the EU.

i'm talking about the green patch here, i jog past here a few times a week and there has been a tent or two here for a month or two

They "@dmakc" asked you a very straight forward question(s) "Answer me this, if the government bought 1k beds tomorrow to house the tented IPAs, is that problem solved?", "Do the IPAs stop coming in?"
This been the whole point of the crisis. People are asking these very simple questions, where does this end and how?

No matter the amount of accommodation capacity built, more will keep coming until the city centre becomes a whack a mole of tent streets appearing-disappearing.
Our leaders only deterrent of IPA's camping around the city, fence the footpaths and canals!

People here shrugging of the canal pathway closure and go elsewhere is completely belittling.

i'm not particularly pro-migrant but i'll give this one a shot

they have contacts here

we speak english

they are given food and shelter and an allowance

they can easily travel here from the UK, and there are probably 100s of 1000s of people in the UK that can legally claim asylum here

I think word of this little goldmine on the periphery of Europe as spread. And of course our own Govt put it out on tweets.

We avoided this for a long time and I think ultimately EU countries and the UK see Ireland as Geographically a good place to shunt their excess which needs to be done to stem the rise of the far right.

There is clearly an issue at the moment. Tents around the city clearly not good. Clear the tents, move the campers, put something in place to deter further camping for now to try nip the phenomenon in the bud. Clear further tents, block if necessary until made clear that camping is pointless as tents will be moved. The immediate downside is temporary blocking of a walkway and an eyesore — not great but not the end of life as we know it. If it doesn't work, try something else and graduate the response if it becomes necessary.

Or I don't know — freak the f**k out and make sure to take the most pessimistic view and complain about any and every measure that doesn't magically fix the world overnight.

You know I was wondering what this post reminded me of, and then I remembered. It was Angela Merkel telling people protesting her opening the borders and allowing anyone who wanted to come into Germany in 2015. People were naturally angry and concerned, and her reaction was something along the lines of "Well, don't think about that. Think how you are so lucky. Go to a museum and look at a picture and don't worry." People then rightly derided her as out of touch; and now I think I've just spotted the Irish equivalent in the wild.

Ah, he's hiding as per usual. Do you notice he's never available for questions? When was the last time you saw him answer any questions from the likes of Michael McNamara or Carol Nolan? If he is interviewed it is just a softball interview where all questions have been vetted beforehand. More often than not, he can't even bring himself to do that, it's a short video that he does before others go on to discuss how great he is.

They're more likely to have contacts in the UK given they're more multi-cultural and have higher levels of immigration there I'd say.

Migrants are given free Spanish/Italian etc. language courses wherever they land first.

Your 3rd point is probably more accurate… "They are given…."

Travelling here from the UK because they fear being deported…

they are more likely to have contacts in the UK, that's why the UK has so many people from different backgrounds living there. as more and more people move to ireland, it will lead to more and more people wanting to move here from their countries/families. there are millions or even billions of people in the world that would move to UK/Ireland tomorrow if they could as we are a paradise compared to most of the world.

Yeah you're right there Marcos. I forgot that Germany is now a total sh*thole too and absolutely nobody would ever visit or live there. By every socioeconomic metric, Germany is probably one of the worst places you could ever hope to be born and is absolutely a far worse place to live in its current lefty madness multicultural state than the many monocultural paradises that are found all over the world. Indeed, prior to the present multicultural day, Germany was right up to the 1990s pretty much heaven on earth until migration and asylum seekers destroyed it. Anyone who suggests that perspective can be in any way applied in the context of issues caused there by migrants and refugees is out of touch.

But hey, the terrible and apocalyptic vista we face in Ireland now will spur the people to action and from the mass of all these complaints on Boards it is obvious that a new wave of people is ready to step forward and fix migration forever. So maybe some of the things happening now might be good in the long run as we will soon see the overthrowing of the Lefties.

Damn, sorry, that was too positive. We are doomed.