Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

You won't. No right to work and a meagre state cash handout was quite effective previously at controlling economic migrants abusing the system. It's only as that control fell that numbers have exploded.

Even if it was ineffective as a control measure, AS should not have the right to work. It undermines the legitimate way to migrate to this country for economic reasons.

We need to stop giving them money. That is the main draw for them. No money, just food and shelter. We can already see a drop in numbers arriving from Ukraine since supports were cut this year.

Seen that case. Truly disgusting. Some vile unscrupulous unmoral creatures amongst us.

Government parties are going to be annihilated at the locals. I know from canvassers who are indies. The scale of this will be huge. Wait till you hear the we've listened to the people sceal outta them then.

Replace the social welfare carrot with a mouldy old parsnip.

I wonder where the next tent city will pop up?

Seeing the hideous barriers now placed along the canal one wonders what’s this about? The Taoiseach said very definitely today - tents are not allowed on our streets. Surely that should be enough - plant a tent and get moved on. Sealing off a wonderful amenity that is just coming into its own as the sun arrives is overkill. Is it that someone feels they have to be seen to be doing something? Surely it’s better to enforce the law, tent by tent and allow the locals to resume their enjoyment of their locality. Why add to the resentment ?

This is what needs to happen:

1. All new arrivals must go to one large detention centre somewhere like the Curragh. In tents. They must go there, they must not be given a choice. Refusal to go there means automatic rejection for application.
2. Detain them there using the Army - anyone being processed should not be allowed to leave this centre unless on emergency medical grounds.
3. Speed up the processing by a factor of 20 at least with a COVID style effort of training and hiring hundreds of assessors. This will be far cheaper for the country than the alternative.
4. Criteria raised for acceptance as refugee - applicant must show proof they face immediate harm if they return where they came from. Simply being from Nigeria for example, would not be enough. Plenty of safe areas in Nigeria.
5. Anyone arriving without documentation gets immediate refusal by default unless they can prove where they are from some other way. The onus should be on them to prove it beyond reasonable doubt.
6. Only 1 appeal allowed.
7. If rejected, immediate deportation on chartered flights. Straight from the detention centre to the airport.
8. Strong crackdown on the human trafficking aspect - even bringing these men from Belfast down south in a taxi should be criminal offense - any cross border trips they would have to register with Irish government or face prosecution.

Do all this while putting funding and legal restrictions on the NGO's to reduce legal appeals to bare minimum. Any NGO aiding an applicant to get around these rules, providing tents in unauthorized areas or to transport them around will also be brought to court and / or de-funded.

Aviva would be grand for them. Give them a Gore-tex sleeping bag, they can wash themselves from a hand basin in the jacks. On-site catering already in place. Lock all the entrances. Job done.

I shared some research in the other thread showing the factors by which IPAs chose a European country.

First up is friends and family, next comes GDP and employment rates.

They found supports played a role but not nearly so much as the other factors.

I'm not so sure the Danish punishment camps and imprisoning children would go down well with the Irish public, given our history of institutional abuse.

I'd think we're far more economically dependent on our position within the EU to not to be seen to play our part, or to push people elsewhere.

Besides if every country in the EU goes that route it's quite likely the effect will be nullified. Deterrence hasn't worked elsewhere.