Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

I think you'll find IPAs arrived in far fewer numbers when our economy crashed.

I don't think it was anything we purposely did.

Peter Casey made a great suggestion today - close down the IPO and accept applicants from the Irish embassy in London.

It's actually brilliant when you think about it. The embassy is considered Irish soil so we technically fulfilling our obligations, without actually bringing them into the island of Ireland so no need to worry about deporting failed applicants. And we get some well needed revenge on the Brits for their triumphalist attitude about migrants coming down from the North recently. Would at least bring them to the negotiating table if nothing else.

The insistence on ‘legal principles’ certainly indicated you were interested in a discussion on the actualities and practicalities of the issue… In as far as those are the concerned, my understanding is that Ireland has effected far fewer Dublin transfers than other EU Member State, this despite Ireland being an island at the edge of the EU - what is your basis for suggesting that the State has employed the Dublin III Regulation effectively?

Hmm. Common sense dictates that we need to recruit ( and train, if necessary) more staff to process IPAs. It would undoubtedly be more efficient, and cost effective, than paying for accommodation, welfare, and medical fees for these applicants.

You have to genuinely wonder why this wasn't done - oh - several years ago...

Effected as a percentage of requests issued is the statistic I refer to, but I’d be interested in the particular statistics that you use in informing your opinion that the State has effectively used the Dublin III regulation. I certainly doubt that the Government is interested adopting the policies required to effectively reduce asylum, certainly, despite warnings from the civil service, they appear to have proceeded with policies that would, by any metric, attract asylum seekers.

Its not an antiquated law, it dates from 2015.

True. Unfortunately, the number of people repatriated for any reason, including deportation, is also vanishingly small. So the lack of repatriation under the Dublin regulation is largely irrelevant.

True. Unfortunately, the number of people repatriated for any reason, including deportation, is also vanishingly small. So the lack of repatriation under the Dublin regulation is largely irrelevant

I’m aware of the return rate for the other EU Member States on that list and Ireland appears to be the worst. Is that statistic the entire basis for your assessment of the effectiveness of the State’s use of Dublin III? As I’ve said, I consider current systems ineffective and insufficient but as I understand it, you aren’t in favour for further restrictions, on that basis, I’d expect your defence of Dublin III to be a little less threadbare…

Not possible to restrict human rights to freedom of movement in the community like that. They are not prisoners and shouldnt be locked up as prisoners.