Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Completely agree, Denmark’s policies of deterrence comply with EU and international law - increased thresholds for protection, reduced processing times, reduced protection time-limits, limited access to the labour market, limited access to welfare, increased use of detention, increased deportation, limited family reunification, all within the law.

What I find baffling is that these undocumented in some cases people are able to enter the country and until a decision is made on if their stay here can be legally decided are allowed wander the country doing as they wish and some even have the gall to talk about how they aren't getting accomodation.

As a previous poster said, once they present and seek asylum they should receive an ID and be transported to facility just like Crooksling and unable to leave that area until it is decided whether they are granted asylum or not.

The processing of applicants would need to be ramped up but just like during the pandemic there are plenty of public servants who could be seconded to the Department if staff resources are an issue

So if Germany or Denmark have tent city's popping up all over the city where there wasn't any before then the Irish people should Stfu is it? You come out with some scoot.

We are about to give what remains of our sovereignty away. We won't be allowed to decide what countries are safe or not anymore . Brussels will decide for us.

Policies of deterrence as practiced in Denmark, Sweden etc. extend beyond increased deportations, the entire asylum system is adjusted in line with the minimum requirement of international obligations.

Just how many tents do these NGO have in stock 😂

Just goes to show the environmental element of the government doesn't matter as long as it isn't bringing in taxes

So RTÉ shouldn't report this issue because it doesn't suit your liking or because Spain/Belgium aren't covering this.

Thankfully you're not the editor-in-chief in RTE or any news organisation … This issue(crisis) is probably the most commented thread on boards, most talked on Reddit, covered by Euronews , BBC, The Guardian , The Telegraph etc… . Huge political topic especially since the UK/Ireland rift but sure everyone is overreacting!!

Imagine been so over fussed about the coverage of a crisis rather than the actually issue itself?? It gives me thought some people would rather this crisis be hushed and kept under wrapped…

It's a forced removal from the state, aka a deportation, in my book.

Do you think they weren't aware there was a two year old Irish citizen there when they raided the house, while the father was out working?

The article suggests similar deportations were happening with some regularity.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/28/theobserver

What's mad is the government's lack in ability to plan for such situations. It's not like it's just happened overnight, these people haven't just appeared out of thin air. The whole process stinks and no one "in charge" looks like they have a clue in what to do next.

What's mad is our politicians and some posters here having an attitude of there's nothing to see here, move along.

The government don't have places for them to go . The number of new arrivals is far stripping accommodation available. Just over 1,800 are still waiting on an offer of accommodation.

I think there's a lack of understanding among our decision makers and the few heroes still defending their immorality as to how big the world is and how many people are in it.

As to how many would rather be here than where they are and are capable of coming here.

This influx will not stop. It will accelerate expontially. It has the potential to collapse the systems and infrastructure of this State before the social and moral ramifications of reducing the Irish nation on its own island are even considered.

It will not stop until it is stopped.

Everyone gets this though. Nobody is disputing the existence of a problem in how we actually handle people who land here. But what can be done to actually appease people? You only have to look at this thread to see that it pretty much doesn't matter what happens from day to day — everything is complaint. Nothing short of the sheer perfection of Ireland's handling an elevation of refugees being experienced across Europe is tolerated on here.

Put the asylum seekers in a facility and people will complain about the facility destroying a community, or it's too plushy and not dark and horrid enough, or the existence of a facility only encourages the building of more facilities and the arrival of more asylum seekers. People will complain about Irish people sleeping rough while migrants get a nice facility.

Have the asylum seekers put in other buildings as an overflow to the facility and people will protest and complain that its another rural or working class urban area being destroyed.

Have the asylum seekers put in a building in D4 and people will complain about the expense and complain why the asylum seekers get to live in leafy Southside Dublin close to nice amenities.

Have the asylum seekers on the streets and people will complain about them being a horrible eyesore and making the streets unsafe.

There doesn't really seem to be anywhere you can put them without it being a joke.

I wouldn’t think so….Would it ?

What do you think ?

Will you expand on this?