Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Maturity? More of the same patronising attitude, assuming that people are not as knowledgeable as you or as mature as you, is patronising.

I have all the information I need, over my lifetime, to make my own opinions based on that knowledge.

It's extremely effective. I saw one tent near Baggott Street bridge kinda behind the fencing. The canals are somewhere to take your dog to relieve itself. They're not a destination.

Should have went to Specsavers..

Enough to warrant a couple of tonnes of metal fencing?

Ffs. You know exactly what I was referring to.

lol , I offered you more information than you have , so yes I am more knowledgeable than you are on this subject , by definition.

you getting upset about that as a real and actual fact speaks to you maturity does it not ?

it is very good advice to never stop learning , ever on any subject

"i have all the information i need" when you do not have all the information at all is an attitude that is sadly prevalent in protest politics these days and one of the reasons it is easy to laugh at virtue signaling ill informed and childish people who take a position because the media or some other entity tells them to while they know only the vaguest details of the issue themselves

you seem to be seeking an opportunity to get offended and that has nothing to do with the topic of this thread , the interview i posted is relevant and valid to the points offered , ignore it if you wish but as i said it weakens your position when you argue about something you dont know enough about

“Have you ever wondered, perhaps, why opinions which the majority of people quite naturally hold are, if anyone dares express them publicly, denounced as 'controversial, 'extremist', 'explosive', 'disgraceful', and overwhelmed with a violence and venom quite unknown to debate on mere political issues? It is because the whole power of the aggressor depends upon preventing people from seeing what is happening and from saying what they see.”
― Enoch Powell

You gotta love the boards narrative.

"Tent cities, that's disgraceful, why won't the Government do something to fix this?

The Government does something that fixes it.

"Ah jaysus, look what they've done, that's disgraceful."

I think you nailed it with that post, it’s as you say unfathomable to think that we have a government that would continue down this path, knowing as we do that this type of uncontrolled mass immigration has had disastrous affects on other countries like Sweden and Denmark (who have now changed course). It’s amazing to think, first it was 800 years of British rule, then it was 80 years of the Catholic Church and now we seem to have handed the country over to these Globalists. It must be something in the Irish DNA that we feel the need to be subservient at all times.

They've done **** all to fix it though. The next one will spring up in the next few days. The route cause is not being addressed.

Absolutely, fortunately the asylum policies adopted by Sweden and Denmark provide a blueprint for us to follow.

Fundamentally, the issue here is threefold:

• A weak Government (which seems to only get worse with every reshuffle over the past 13 years) that has members more interested in social media grandstanding and virtue signalling, and bending the knee to the whims of our EU "friends" than representing the interests and needs of this country and its citizens.
• Tens of thousands of economic migrants who are abusing our weak immigration controls and generosity by posing as refugees and asylum seekers - demonstrating a fundamental dishonesty and disrespect for Ireland from the off, and simultaneously undermining genuine cases of such, and stealing finite and limited resources that could otherwise be used to help those who actually deserve our support.
• An indigenous group of well-funded "charity" groups who are making a fortune from this industry that's arisen, supplemented/enabled by naive people who believe that we owe these economic chancers something, and that they will be so appreciative of our help and respectful of our ways that it'll all be one big happy multicultural utopia in the end.

The problems with this of course are that no one asked the rest of the citizens if they were happy to support this half-considered crusade to save everyone who arrives with a sad story - at the expense of those same citizens who are struggling to deal with the existing and worsening problems we already had, and at the cost of them having to step aside to let the new arrivals receive the benefits and supports of the State first.

The other problem is that many of the new arrivals are here solely for themselves. They don't want to be Irish, to give up their existing ways, and to live by our rules - they're only here for what our country can offer them. That's also why they freely admit to arriving from the UK or France or via half of Europe. Why wouldn't they? They're here for a better life for themselves.

To a point that's understandable, but then they're not asylum seekers or refugees fleeing persecution are they? They're deliberately circumventing what controls we do have because it's all about what they want and they need. That alone should disqualify them from any assistance and "entitle" them to a plane trip back to wherever they last departed from.

As I said though, it also highlights the lack of respect they have for our country. They don't want to integrate. They want what we have, and to live how they desire, and the stupidity of the modern Western mindset means that the gate is wide open to abuse while misguided idealists and ideologues pressure the authorities and muddy the necessary conversations to enable it. The irony of course is that these "enlightened liberal progressive" attitudes are the first to fall in the cultures we are now welcoming with open arms. In reality, rather than being recognised for our generosity, we're seen by many as gullible fools to be exploited.

Immigration and multiculturalism could work to be fair, but only when the benefits are for both hosts and the new arrivals, when robust and efficient controls exist to manage not only the intake but who qualifies, as well as ensuring that no one group is favoured or disadvantaged over another. Unfortunately however, such a system and place doesn't yet exist and I doubt a small struggling island on the edge of Europe will be the one to break the mold and the all too familiar unfortunate pattern we've seen already elsewhere.

We could really do with Vincent Browne grilling our elected gobshytes and sponsored NGOs.

Tents, full of refugees, are growing like mushrooms after a rain in Dublin. Government are only encouraging for more to come

What Ngo that helps these refugees do you actually work with??

Anyone hear Rich Boy Barrett on the news at one today? Rich Boy is of the firm opinion that we have a duty to house every single arrival looking for asylum. And that is that.

Remember Rich Boy and PBP when you go to vote.