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I’m not so sure about that. If Kitty feels like she has carte blanche to attack a grieving young man, isn’t she potentially setting herself up as a target for more extreme elements? Do unto others as you would like to be treated yourself and all that..

Incidentally, this thread is an education in and of itself. I’d never heard of Justin Barrett or this Dwyer character before scanning this thread. It’s quite peculiar to see a small cohort of posters obsess about them, when they’re entirely unknown to 99% of society. It’s like two edge cases simultaneously repelled and attracted by one another..

following someone down the street, videoing them is threatening behaviour. Given the fact that Dwyer has conviction for assault, has lost his job for kicking dogs, makes it worse.

So you've never heard of them yet you are defending them this fiercely? Yeah nobody believes you.

Frankly, I couldn’t care less what you do or don’t believe. My point is that a negligible % of the electorate have ever heard of these characters. Why are you obsessing about such non-entities? Are you concerned that people lack the critical skills to form their opinions?

How do you feel about Kitty Holland’s treatment of Ryan Casey? Do you think he in some way deserved that?

These people are different sides of the same arse cheek. Extremists who are best ignored.

I think their views, statements and actions are abhorrent.

Also the only person obsessing over them seems to be yourself, this is my second post in this thread, it's your 11th in less than 24 hours on a topic and group of people you claim to not care about.

I am a bit baffled over your bizarre opinion that people on a discussion board shouldn't be allowed discuss certain topics though? What's that about ehh?

They might be marginal but people like Dwyer and Blighe were egging on the riots last year and actively spreading misinformation to cause problems. Being a minor figure doesn't mean you can't be dangerously influential. Equally they're the same lot who harass library staff or show up in balaclavas outsides of politician's home. That has the effect of putting off people running for politics. Meanwhile library staff who are doing a great public service are actively feeling at risk because of people like Philip and then you'll have plenty even on this site that will cheer that on.

Who we talking about here? ELI5. please - I'm in Europe, have no BBC player and am shamefully googling the wrong terms because lots of dwyers and Murphys are coming up that don't appear to be relevant.

Nope, still out of the loop. Thanks for trying, but im gonna need him.to post something.

 A surefire way to ensure people don't vote for anything he's associated with.

I'd say literally so in the case of any female voter who sees that video. With the possible exception of Rebecca Barrett, but she's presumably voting for herself in the Euro elections…

Where did I reference your post count? If you think I've broken a forum rule report me, fyi backseat modding is also against the rules....

I said that when I was on the March last week people mentioned a number of names to me as “good prospects” for election and I said P Dwyer seemed decent enough from what limited knowledge I had of him at the time.

Of course I don’t condone the reasons he got fired from an post but it was years ago and not overly relevant to his political career or ideology.

I disliked the video of him drunk giving abuse to the taxi man - no need for that, I hope Philip apologised to the man who was just going about his lawful business.

On k Holland video - she’s a journalist who is extremely controversial and I think Philip was entitled to ask her questions but he should’ve just let her walk off silently - a damning sign of her own petulance and intellectual cowardice/ arrogance- than follow her

On G Pepper - he is very active on the migration issue and very passionate - I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets elected

Same goes for D Blighe but he is based in cork and I don’t have much first hand info on him - I know of course the loony left vilify him and all of the others calling for a sensible migration policy , that is “priced into”’ my deliberations

You have to remember that it's not just the "loony left" that will vilify people with populist agendas and questionable moral codes when they run for office - it's anyone who can see the propoganda and false accusations. The loony left doesn't even make up a very large demographic of the electorate.

Also, being passionate, does not make someone a good candidate or even a nice person.

There is not one person from any of these parties that I would see as having a good handle on the problems you raise. The raise the issues - sure - but they don't offer ideas or policies as to how to solve the problems.

Problem - mass migration into ireland. Ok….

Policy - make Ireland more Irish by having a higher poulation of Irish-born people.

Solution - ???

Issue - a lot of foreign nationals have kids born here - how are you going to deal with that?

Solution - ???

there are 2 others I recently came across on Twitter who I would ask open minded ppl to consider

1 is the Irish Inquiry - he seems to be based in Mayo and is a clever and informative man regarding migration in that county. In some of the videos he absolutely runs rings around elected politicians and exposed their duplicity.

Worth a look. I’m not sure if he is running for election, but if not he should, he comes across as very smart.

The other goes by “Big Ferg” he seems to be a veritable mountain of a man but has his heart in the right place from what I can gather. he is a striking figure who can be seen proudly marching with his beloved tricolour.
He is running for local election in south dublin.

He seems to be “in” with Gavin Pepper and is a “character” from some of the clips i watched.

On his Twitter he alleges he was illegally arrested last year at a peaceful match.

There is also a video where a Sinn Fein rep seems to “collude” with a guard to get Ferg arrested. Looks dodgy to me.

I know the usual suspects will be on now to heap opprobrium and insults on me, and the persons I mentioned in my posts. however I do not post for their benefit, but for undecided voters who are considering their options and want to support sensible migration candidates.

Can you point out what the differences are between Barret, Dwyer and Blighe? Although I'm not sure maybe Dwyer is the only actual convicted criminal.

What are your opinions on the polices of the National Party, think you forgot to tell us.........

you can add Blighs brother Tommy Murphy (running in local elections) to the convicted list

But you'll vote for other fascists who were willing to join his party, co-lead it with him, have him 'mind' their nazi gold, etc?

This has to be a **** wind-up. 'His beloved tricolour ' FFS.

I look in vain for the word "delighted" in the stated poll question.

Do you have a source that backs up the claim you made? I'm guessing not; if you did, you'd have linked to it.

Inciting hatred will be a criminal offense shortly so they can be prosecuted for their activities. That is what the hate speech legislation is all about.

Surprisingly you can be a right wing politician without inciting hatred against minorities and individuals - it just harder.

Anyone can promote themselves as a political activist, doesn't stop them been a violent thug.

No one is legitimising Dwyer and the hate speech legislation will deal with anyone promoting violence against minorities. It will pass since we made a commitment to pass it to the EU.

All of which needs to be caveated by the fact that it’s your personal opinion.

Simon Harris and the current administration may very well not be around to enact this legislation. Several FG and FF TDs have also openly expressed reservations. Sinn Fein has reversed course.

If it’s a done deal (your opinion), the version passed will be so watered down as to be rendered virtually meaningless. It’s not stopping Dwyer and a proliferating number of his ‘colleagues’ continuing their activities long into the future.