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GAA Go

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,372 ✭✭✭howiya


    We have vodafone for the tv. The play store is on their box and you can install the GAAGo app. Very easy to use.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    My own opinion, but its fairly naiive and arrogant of Jarlath Burns if he thinks he can smack down the leader of the government in this way; particularly when the GAA has been such a beneficiary of state funding.

    Similarly, he was fairly derogatory about Sean Cavanagh, something along the lines of 'you'd think he would he'd know this stuff as an accountant' - to which he got truly owned by Cavanagh who referenced that yes he had looked at the GAA's accounts and spoke about what he saw.

    He's really fanned the flames here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,249 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,666 ✭✭✭HBC08


    You can cast it from your phone to your TV,you could even use a HDMI cable from you laptop.

    I haven't done this myself but I imagine you can download the app on your smart TV which would probably be the best.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,426 ✭✭✭jj880


    Would depend on the TV.

    Seems to be 4 options according to GaaGo website: casting from mobile app on phone/tablet if you have a Chromecast or TV with built in Chromecast (some do have built in so check the TV settings), native app included for certain TV brands in their own app store, android/apple app downloaded direct to TV if TV runs on either OS, cabling a laptop / PC to TV.

    What brand / model of TV are you using?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,830 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    The app is available on most tv's from the last few years and its also on Amazon Firesticks and Apple TV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,860 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    He didn't smack down the leader of the government. He said he met an Oireachtas committee last year, he said he met the Tanaiste, he said he met the Minister for Sport and he said he met Paschal Donohue only last week in Croker, and none of the above have raised the concerns regarding GaaGo with him as they have in public. Clare Byrne put it to him that 'did he believe that the Govt were speaking out of both sides of their mouths and he agreed they were.

    He doesn't appear to be too far off the mark.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,905 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Correct, I usually judge the Tainiste as a safe pair of hands but on this occasion because Cork were involved

    he seemed he had to put his oar in…. pure electioneering …lets call a spade a spade.

    Burns was excellent on the CB show ..said it as it is, and came across very well.

    How do some people think a practically voluntary organisation like the GAA can exist when they plough 85%

    of revenue back into facilities and clubs.

    I realise they get Govt support, and rightly so, but they save the Govt far more than they get.

    Some folk don't seem or want to understand these issues.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,672 ✭✭✭elefant


    The annual crazy level of discourse on a total non-issue for most GAA fans with any modicum of genuine interest.

    Pay your few quid a month and access massive amounts of content on-demand, or be happy with the free-to-air GAA that's on every Saturday and Sunday. You're not losing anything by not subscribing to GAA GO, you're just not getting extra for free.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,249 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    I'm grand as I have it all on the fire stick but have heard from friends and family over The last few weeks when they have bought games that they had no way to cast it onto their TV and had to watch the games On their phone.

    I've checked my TV and the app is not there and there's no Chromecast built-in either. So I'm presuming you need a relatively new TV for this to work.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,905 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    far as I know you can buy a device to cast stuff onto the TV. Little dongle that plugs into the USB on the telly?

    Cost about Euro 35?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,672 ✭✭✭elefant


    I think it would be a decent step for the GAA to arrange something through the clubs where volunteers could go and help people in their locality get the tech set up, maybe help them arrange a chromecast if necessary, write down the steps for them to get in from their device onto the TV etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,905 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    I'd be very surprised if something like that wasn't happening already….very good idea if properly monitored, if you get my drift.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,426 ✭✭✭jj880


    Currys has the HD Chromecast with Google TV OS at 40 euro. Released 2022. Decent price.

    https://www.currys.ie/products/google-chromecast-hd-with-google-tv-snow-10242833.html

    NOTE: Its heavily rumoured Google will be launching a new version of their 4k Chromecast at their 2024 Google I/O showcase tonight at 6pm. It's nearly 4 years old now so definitely worth waiting to see if they release a higher spec device if you want 4k.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    The annual crazy level of those who support the fleecing of supporters for more money.

    The dogs in the street know that the entire Championship structure (with all the extra games) was built entirely to suit the GAA Go system. "These games wouldn't be seen at all if it weren't for GAA Go" What a load of BS. All that's happening now is that people are missing huge games that, 15 years ago, would have been viewable on RTE.

    Ever wonder why Cork appear to be disproportionately affected by this? Because they got a big fat stadium that is costing the GAA a pretty penny so Cork fans are clearly the target of the GAA Go tax.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,372 ✭✭✭howiya


    15 years ago RTE would have shown all four munster hurling games. They're showing 6 or 7 this year. This idea that these games would have been shown in the past is what is BS



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,663 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    This is actually a really good idea. My father is in his 80s. I've been thinking about getting him a subscription. I'd have to show up how to use it because he's actually afraid of new technologies like this (He's always afraid he'll press the wrong button and someone will blame him for "breaking" something).

    There must be many of people like him out there who have nobody who can help them with the setup.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭snowgal


    the problem is that, 15 or 20 years ago, we had much less games to show. Because of the new systems brought in in both hurling and football over the years the amount of games has increased hugely in such short window. we cant compare to 'back when' as the whole set up is completely changed…also, alot of the giving out this week is purely because it was Cork game and because they pulled a surprise win and a hugely exciting game. If it wasnt cork or they had been thrashed, half the gaa population wouldnt give a crap this week….I dont have a problem with gaa go idea per say, as it does give the opportunity to see games we just would not see this year because of the sheer volume of matches each weekend. however I have a problem with the pricing. I think if they want people to buy in, reduce the annual and per match cost. Id have no problem paying €5 to watch a particular game I wanted to see, but €12 is just too steep….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 637 ✭✭✭poppers


    There are 17 games this week between munster/Leinster hurlingAll ire seris and Tailteann cup, not sure what games are been shown this week thinknits the 2 munsters games on sunday.

    Going by some of the argunents on here every single one should be on TV.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,672 ✭✭✭elefant


    Wow. I don't think there's a single sentence in this post that isn't incorrect.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,717 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Have you consulted with the dogs in the street?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Not true, the cork/limerick game being behind a paywall was in the news a lot in the lead up to the game.

    I would have no problem with GAA Go if it was actually used as they say it is i.e. to show games that would never have been seen before, but this is clearly not the case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,765 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Nothing cost a fiver anymore and I don't believe that it would solve the complaints.

    If they launched for 5 people would moan it wasn't 3.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,905 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    You are correct!
    You see, unfortunately some blimps cannot see the big picture.

    They cannot get their heads around an organisation like the GAA needing income to keep stadia, centres of excellence, referees, pitches , facilities, ground staff ,security, players all ‘taken care of’without some kind of supplementary source based on the popularity of their game.

    If these folk want to see a game so badly pay for the fcukker, it’s not mad money?..or go to it .

    Complete nothingburger here… time to tell these gloamers to take a hike



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,830 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    I'd suspect the individual prices are designed to steer people towards the yearly subscription. Which makes sense as it gives a much more stable base and makes it a more reliable business model.

    The only thing I'd like to see change is a football only subscription, and a hurling only subscription.



  • Registered Users Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Butson


    You do actually. PPV plays outs for 3 days after the event, then its put up on the broadcasters youtube page etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Nah - That's down to the specific broadcaster and if they have rights to put the event up for free days after. UFC don't put their PPVs up for Free. So in-turn, anything being broadcast on PPV by them, ESPN+ etc., can't show it for free. Same with the events on BT Box Office. Same with WWE etc. You have to buy or subscribe to watch back the PPV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Why shouldn't Burns speak the truth? The money for given for particular purposes, not free streaming and the government will not give RTÉ the money to buy these rights so that there is no loss of revenue to the GAA.

    As for Cavanagh, he is an embarrassment. The GAA has some money in the kitty to be sure, but with stadium projects underway in Kildare, Louth and Meath and a very large bill incoming for Casement park they hardly have a surplus of money. It is an easy quip to say "the GAA has millions" but Cavanagh knows perfectly well that the costs are in the millions also.



  • Registered Users Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Butson


    I'm not a UFC fan but Boxing have started to get with the times a bit here recently. May as aswell get it up on youtube shortly after and monetize it as its up there anyway from less legitimate sources.

    Sky Sports do the same with the Premier League now. You can watch the highlights on your sky box (without a sky sports subscription) and on their youtube page immediately after the match. Once a live sporting event is over, it has lost all relevance, so you may as well try and make money off the highlights.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    This is nothing to do with 'speaking the truth'; its to do with sneering at people and making derogatory comments "there must be an election coming up".

    As for 'some money in the kitty'…..€150mn is more than 'some money in the kitty'.

    Again - the profit share at GAAGO last year was €250,000 - you wont even build the stadium jacks for that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Can't you make the same complaint against Clubber so, the same as GAA Go? The margins for these things are so tight; especially in GAA that if they release the stuff for free; that expectation has now been set.

    Boxing/UFC are dealing with Hundreds of Thousands, and sometimes Millions of PPV buys that they can afford to release the footage for free at some stage after. In UFC's case you can have it if you subscribe to UFC Fight Pass. WWE if you subscribe to their Network etc.

    Monetary-wise there'd probably be no benefit to GAA Go releasing the footage for free. They wouldn't have the rights to anyway; so in GAA's case, the contracts might say that footage may not be released beyond X minutes available to the public.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,271 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    15 years ago wasn't that much different to today.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2010/0507/264802-sundaygame/

    40 live matches in 2010.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2024/03/29/rte-announce-schedule-of-live-gaa-matches-for-next-five-months/

    I make it 37 live men's matches in 2024. When you consider that there will be coverage of 9 camogie matches, which weren't covered in 2010, that will be an increase over 2010.

    The annual exaggeration of the good old days of all matches on free tv continues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,290 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    So RTE wouldn't pay for the rights, but GAAGo (which is part-owned by RTE) would? Something fishy there I think



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,290 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    There's lot of hurling being show, in fact every hurling game is being shown. The issue is that it's being shown on a subscription streaming service, not that it's not being shown



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Not made with hands


    In Munster maybe but is Dub v Kilkenny being shown Saturday night?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,765 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    One is RTE giving money and the other is RTE making money.

    They obviously made a decision on how much they could afford to buy and at what value and decided 1 package free to air was all that was worth it but they could do more but through a profit making service.

    I'm not a big fan of Gaago or the old Sky deal but I hate it a lot less than I hate the "won't somebody think of the old people/volunteers/crap with computers people" crowd. The fact that politicians are getting involved is just pathetic.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Last year, it was - all these games wouldn't have been shown at all without GAAGO.

    This year- These are the matches that will make us the most money to put back into the GAA.

    The production and camera work at these games on GAAGO is woeful. To solve this, there will be a price hike sooner rather than later.

    When asked about the income?

    'I don't have the figures. RTE will,' says Burns.

    There's a lot of people prepared to believe anything they're told in Ireland. But it simply doesn't add up.

    But what is happening here, is a way to harness Munster hurling money for the GAA outside Munster. They can't get at the Munster gate receipts. But if they put Munster hurling behind a paywall they can milk it and then you can put it into Ulster and Leinster football and so on. They can't do that otherwise.
    With income of almost €11 million including provincial senior hurling championship gate receipts of €5.391m, Munster GAA recorded a €3.2m profit in 2023 prior to funding. After directing €2.65m in operating, capital and club development grants as well as depositing €1.75m in a strategic investment fund, the provincial council had a deficit of €1.177m for the year. However, Munster GAA’s retained earnings are €7.548m. They have just over €5m in Croke Park’s loan and deposit scheme and close to €5m cash in hand.

    What did Burns say production costs for GAAGO were? 4 million? That's about 3 or 4 concerts at Croke Park.

    What's to stop Munster Council running something like GAAGO on its own? Croke Park, I'd imagine.

    Anything that involves RTE ends in disaster or scandal or both.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,290 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Yes, it's on GAA Go

    https://www.gaago.ie/fixture/PC12-24-H-LRR5

    I would think that RTE will make a lot of money from the broadcast of GAA games through advertising revenue. If they can't they are doing something wrong

    Politicians are only getting involved because there are European, Local and Mayoral elections around the corner. There's also tax money being paid to the GAA so questionable if GAA-Go should be a free or subscription service from that point of view. That gives them a platform but they said very little last year by comparison



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,905 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Like I said the GAA is a 32 county Association………what part of that can you not understand?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Well, I'll only respond to you once because it's a waste of my time. You don't understand how the gaa works. Like for instance, it's much more than 32 counties. Also, when it comes to county boards and revenue, it's every one for themselves. Always has been, always will be. Dublin and Limerick have astronomical budgets.

    Do as you will and continue to insult people with words like blimps and loamsters and whatever other silliness you're going on with but don't include me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,765 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    There is tax money paid to soccer too but no uproar about LOITV.

    Every sport gets tax money but forcing free to air as being a precondition is utter bullsht.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    This is nonsense. Ulster football can pay its own way, if any of the Munster money makes its way to the northern half of the country it is probably to support hurling there and that is appropriate.

    Politicians are getting involved because of the election and it is not insulting to say so. It would be much more insulting to say that politicians couldn't work out the numbers for themselves and so they are just stupid.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Yesterday, Burns linked GAAGO money to COE and Stadia all over the country.



  • Registered Users Posts: 534 ✭✭✭tv3tg4


    The production and camera work at these games on GAAGO is brutal.

    The GAAGO Firestick app is beyond appalling.

    The government is holding the purse strings. I am sure the government could put pressure on RTE /GAA regarding the more prominent games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Not made with hands


    We've had PPV for GAA (sky sports initially) for over 10 years.

    Munster and Leinster rugby must be PPV for 15 years now and no moaning about that.

    Not sure what all this continuous whining is about TBH.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,765 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Absolutely disgraceful to call for the government to pull funding for a sport with wide ranging grassroots and underage participation because a few lads can't or won't pay to stream something.

    If that happens the GAA should return fire and cancel all games and cul camps for the summer. Like to see all these Billy big balls politicians try get re-elected if all the work the GAA does in the community for them gets cancelled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,290 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Munster and Leinster (and Connacht) rugby are free to air though 🤔🤔🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Not made with hands


    Not in the European cup away games.

    For plenty of years all European cup games were PPV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,765 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Autumn internationals are to be on TNT if I remember correctly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    So what? The money is needed for stadia undergoing work right now, which might be Louth or Kildare. Cork and Limerick do not need a new stadium.



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