Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

Oh yes. I'm sure Trump and those people he uses to represent him on legal issues are well aware of how evasion can be a criminal offence in the U.S.

Going back to the Capitol Hill event day in 2021, there were claims published in the media last week by members of the GOP sitting on a congress committee that it was alleged in witness testimony that Trump had actually requested and given the go-ahead for the activation of National Guard Pers to support the civil police in Washington on the 06 Jan but that General-rank members of the Army and the Guard had taken steps to prevent this from happening, specifically by blocking the advance of paperwork needed for activation. Allegedly some witnesses appearing before the committee had testified to that effect. I understood from what the GOP people were claiming that they were unhappy with the army and guard generals alleged actions and were intent on following up on it.

I don't know the why's and where-for's for any such alleged actions on the day concerned or if the claims are mere disinformation from the GOP members but it was clear in the immediate aftermath of Trumps presidency that there was considerable discord and distrust between him and several senior ranking generals, not least of whom was General Milley, who might have had suspicions as to what Trump would try to have the Guard members deployed to do in aid of the civil power.

Looking at Trumps actions and use of Federal Agency Pers on the ground in Washington during his presidency, I would think at least one general might have had understandable reservations in putting uniformed boots on the ground - when there was a person with Trumps ability to misuse authority in a hands-on manner - while Trump was venting his personal upset at the people from both parties inside the Capitol building.

If I was one of the serving officers, I wouldn't have much hope of a career moving forward or upward if Trump were to be re-elected to the presidency. I suspect that similar feeling might be had in other branches of the Federal Govt. I certainly would not trust Trump with the control of federal forces in government under another Trump administration.

There is a mention in US media of an approach by a lawyer in New York to Judge Juan Merchan purely because he felt the judge needed advice on how to handle the Trump case he was to hear. The lawyer was not approached or contacted by Judge Merchan for any advice. I think it's great that lawyers do pro-bono work like that, especially when the lawyer then goes and lets the media know about his approaching and giving the judge the unsolicited advice on how to handle the Trump case.

To say someone doctored evidence is a serious accusation.

Could the special counsel launch a personal case against him?

As its not a democrat case not sure what the Democrats can do about it.

But on what basis is it a disaster for Biden? You think Trump prefers this than to be out campaigning? No doubt it plays well to his MAGA supporters, but then there is nothing Trump or the Democrats could do to lose them.

It puts an important legal marker down. That no matter who you are you are not above the law. If that helps Trump win then so be it. That is what the people want to vote for.

The alternative is to not take a case on the basis that it might not suit your political view. Once that happens the law is corrupted and the only matter is who is in charge.

Its as if life is an alternative reality for those on Trump-world.

One thing that may have a relevance in how things are going on within the family between Don, Melania and Barron is Barron declining the invite to attend AS A DELGATE at the GOP meet in Florida. This is after media reports that it was Melania who stated he would NOT be attending as a delegate and after he had attended at a [day/s] earlier previous GOP meeting in Florida.

Yes, and they did manage to get one juror on who stated they got their news through Truth Social, so the unanimous verdict is a tough sell, even if everyone knows the reality of the situation.

To think a megalomaniac like Trump wouldn't have been all over it seems farcical

So I believe. I guess you only have a certain quota of vetos, and maybe they'd hit their limit?

It may have been a slight sensationalisation of the statement and they said that they read Truth Social but didn't get all their news from it, but I remember at the time thinking that should have been an automatic red flag

Had Trump not ran for president , none of these cases would be trialed . America knows this, and it's why his polling is so favorable . The whole thing has backfired badly for Biden.

It is very hard to commit campaign finance violations without a campaign alright and indeed it would be a pretty good defense if he managed to get accused of it anyway!

Similarly sticking someone in court for Jan 6th would have been ridiculous if he never ran for president. Mostly because nothing out of the ordinary would have happened and it would have been either w peaceful continuation or a peaceful transfer of power depending on the results if he didn't run.

What does Biden have to do with the cases? All I can think of is that he hasn't interceded on Trump's behalf. Do you think a president should interrupt the course of justice.

It is interesting we are at the stage of "well he broke the law multiple times but we don't feel they are important enough laws to deserve punishment" stage. Interesting stance for the party of law and order.

Many have been tried for Jan 6th without running for office so this seems made up. As well as the random assumption that this is all under the direction of Biden (shouldn't you have said his handlers given he is meant to be senile or some such?).

If you want politically motivated case then see the ones against Biden that ended when they couldn't even pretend to themselves he had done anything wrong. Or the many stolen election cases when they point blank refused to ever show any evidence ever.

Yeah I am sure it took a lot for the guy who worked for Trump to support him. Guess he wants a job again if Trump pulls it off!

Campaign financing is not frivolous. Campaign laws are far too weak as is but they are there to at least try and give a level field. They knew what they were doing.

You left out what he paid a lawyer for. They knew he paid a lawyer very specifically to help in his campaign, you must have a very low opinion of Trump and anyone who about the payment to think they didn't realise that this was relevant to the campaign.