GAA Go

Ah Cork need more money than anyone for their stadium.

Pull funding and more games will go behind the paywall as everything needs to be paid for. What's taken away somewhere has to be found somewhere else.

It probably reflects the fees they are charging. If they were taking in Sky Sports type money, the product would be higher quality.

They do have preview and analysis shows and also have added loads of interviews and documentaries. I can't comment on the quality as I don't subscribe but there is stuff there.

The app is definitely on smart TVs also.

Yeah I've a 2018 LG tv and app not available at all.

They were never PPV, they were subscription for a long time. For a few years you actually needed 2 subscriptions

URC games were also subscription based for a time. This season all the Munster/Leinster/Connacht games are on FTA. Also Munster had 4 of their 4 pool Champions Cup games on Free to Air and Leinster had 3 of theirs with all of the knock-outs they were involved in being Free to Air also.

This was more a bit of luck and the way things fell than anything else though we are always going to have 2 games FTA for each club at european level

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that while other sports are trying to move away from the subscription or pay-to-view model the GAA seem to be doing the exact opposite

Huh? Move away from subscriptions?

Premier League will have all non-Saturday 3.00 kick-offs in the next deal, a big increase.

EFL is moving to have all games shown.

LOI also has a subscription service so it is exactly the same as the GAA with it's RTE/online split.

And "in Ireland" is a very small sample size. Domestic rugby at a TV broadcast is 4 teams which have an average but not astounding fanbase and a soccer scene that would be Sunday league in bigger countries. Rugby commands a decent TV package because it's 5/6 countries pooled together and before those days it was a nothing sport really at domestic level. So the GAA doesn't have a domestic comparison.

URC at an Irish level is way below where the GAA is. Overall URC can command resources beyond the GAA so no there is no comparison.

LOITV is cheaper the same way tickets for LOI are cheaper. Pure and simply because it is a smaller organisation that needs to be cheap to get people in. If LOI could they would charge more.

Every sport works out what it needs Vs what it can realistically generate.

URC at an Irish level is way below where the GAA is.

I'd disagree with this one. Maybe not as big in Connacht but there's regularly 10k+ going to games in Thomond, Ravenhill and the RDS. Interpro games regularly hitting 20k+ yes the GAA gets 40k+ to Cork/Limerick once a year but what was the attendance at Carlow V Kilkeeny last weekend? 7k?

You look at Dublin - how many people have attended a LOI match this year; how many people have attended a GAA match in Parnell Park or Croke Park.

The LOI games are sold out. There is a long waiting list at Bohs for season tickets. Between them - Pats, Bohs, Rover and Shels have total attendance of 20,000 for home games. They have each had 8 home games so far this year - thats a total attendance of 160,000 so far this year.

Would the GAA have more than that in Dublin so far this year? I doubt it….would barely have half that.

To your point - LOI have priced it properly and are delivering a good product. GAA isnt doing that in Leinster especially. I'd be pretty sure a lot of fans thought - €40 to see Dublin hammer Louth/ Meath/ whoever?….. nah….

Munster get 10k+ to a URC game. Cork or Limerick get that on their own for a league game and that's before factoring in the other 4 counties.

Munster average 13k, Leinster 20k, Connacht 5.5k and Ulster 13k which is pretty small compared to the combined totals of those provinces in their favoured Gaelic game.

and there will now be nearly 3 weeks with only hurling and no football, so equal treatment

and as for the suggestion that Munster get their own TV deal, well, thats been done with the Ulster Chp with BBC - BUT not all games are shown live, some are delayed AND all has to be coordinated with Croke Park

As it stands, the Gaa Go reciepts on the odd Munster game shown do go into the greater pot, from memory counties do get a little extra if a game is televised, but the real money is the gate reciepts . For the 46000 at PUC, if tickets are an average of say 20 euro (my random estimate considering kids only paying a fiver, cheaper terrace tickets etc) thats 920,000 Euro for just one game. The reciepts for the Limerick v Tipp game with 33,500 attending wouldnt be much less - but indeed may have been higher if it were on Gaago !

Leinster final was €40….previous games €30 afaik.

The attendances in general are not that far off what LOI is getting. There are exceptions - but any of the Leinster hurling games so far this year are getting 5000 or 6000 at best, and sometimes a lot lower. And there are far fewer games than LOI.

30 for a walkover is pretty steep. In comparison it's 25 for terrace and 30 seated for Munster hurling which is a good price for what you get.

I can't get my head around Leinster hurling. They cry when Munster look down on them and try tell us it's great and on years like this where is has been great there is no sign of the fans.

The 6 Nations is filmed by 1 group and sent out to each host broadcaster. Virgin will only show sport under this model.

Virgin were offered Gaelic games but told the GAA they only work with prepackaged sport.

How could the GAA show the games for free. Do you mean run GAAgo as a free service ?

GAAGo offer three of your choice games for €24.

I would have no problem with free GAAgo as long as it wasn't too expensive with GAA paying to run GAAgo paying RTE to film the games and show them at a loss.

Advertising revenue for a small single country probably would not make a profit. Soccer and rugby can do it because one broadcast can be resold in multiple countries.

Just to point out you can filter YouTube search results to "video duration > 20 mins" and "uploaded in last 24 hours". Theres usually a hero with a video up. Cork Limerick was easily available.

There was an interesting article in the irish times, which ridiculously is behind a paywall, and being an irish paper that should be free of course because everything notable or good and irish should be free, at least if you live in Ireland. But anyhow, heres a taster…

Ciarán Murphy: We need more games on GAAGo – not less

The GAA have more championship games that matter than they’ve ever had and have the technological infrastructure to allow more people to see more of these games

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GAAGo isn’t perfect. Having three Cork hurling games, and their footballers’ match against Kerry, might be deemed to be squeezing a major market a little too forcefully. But my main criticism of GAAGo is simply that it doesn’t show enough games.

…….but there was no facility for me to watch Galway/Sligo in a Connacht senior football semi-final a couple of weeks ago. I’d have loved to have been able to tune into GAAGo for that and I’d have paid more for the privilege.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2024/05/16/ciaran-murphy-we-need-more-games-on-gaago-not-less/

His point is that it would have been great to have it live on GAAgo, and whilst I agree I can see why the powers that be are cautious about having too much on live whether free or on GAAgo BUT like a broken record I still dont see why more games cannot be shown delayed on Gaago, or better still also on terestrial TV.

Sure feck it, if Virgin wont send their own TV crew for live games, maybe offer Virgin media delayed rights of live Gaago games like the FAI does for friendlies. A high profile game with coverage starting at 8.30pm or so surely would get more viewers than some poxy movie, or this Saturday on Virgin 2 "Live Racing: Preakness Stakes" ?

Most 'local' newspapers are no longer locally owned, nearly all part of bigger media groups who dont give a **** unfortuantely

If thr local newspaper puts so much of it'd content up online for free how many will still but the paper then. If they don't payroll it what return do they get?