The National Party

Anyway. How is this thread still not about the actual Nazis affiliated with the National Party?

Third Reich, that's what all the people say, I took Poland in April, then France in May....

Ha think I thanked that myself ;)

Why do you not think that they are dangerous though ?

I know these guys are eejits but they are influencing a lot of undiscerning people who think they have the answers , on social media.

It is a creeping disease.

If anything is giving them support it's the mess made of the IPA situation, which was encouraged by well meaning left wing politicians, which is ironic as the likes of the NP had virtually no support previously.

I trust people to not vote for these idiots, although I'd be more worried about them now than a year ago thanks mostly to the asylum debacle.

Barret's departure from the party means nothing in itself, if the party doesn't repudiate the Nazi-influenced policies and positions that are Barret's legacy. A personality clash between Nazis doesn't mean that anyone involved in the clash ceases to be a Nazi.

So we'd be looking for evidence of a sharp change of course for the NP. I'm not seeing it. And I see no reason to expect it.

This thread got really boring really quickly

Here's a quick definition of Irish democracy from Google..

I'm not really obligated to compare and contrast liberal and social democracy, maybe start with a search of your own online on the social democratic, or nordic model as its also known.

China is a socialist country. The structures of its governance remains the same since Mao's revolution. The expansion into trade within the capitalist system is based purely on their agenda to become the world's largest superpower, a means to an end.

The lefts need to distance themselves from any negatives related to socialism is peculiar.

We currently have a problem with far right activists in Ireland harassing politicians etc, the water shed moment for that type of behaviour was the Jobstown protests carried out by far left activists who now bemoan the same behaviour carried out by the far right. Go figure.

Ireland doesn't have as you said, a social democracy. We have a liberal democracy.

That screenshot is evidence of that.

I'm not obligated to provide you with evidence that your assumptions are incorrect, do your own research.

Whatever you come back with later, it crucially will not refute my central point that Ireland has a liberal democracy and not a social democracy because I presented a fact to refute your opinion.

Seen him perform live - he's allowed to do it in Berlin because it's art, not political…

He's disputing that apparently, but the person he's disputing it "fondly remembers Mussolini" so not sure that's a much of a change.

Ha! Firstly, I don't see the word "sorry" there and secondly, that's a dog (who can't vote, by the way, Phil) not a representaive of animal's rights.

When the ISPCA support him, I'll accept he's been forgiven!

Oh look. Scumbag thug animal abuser has a dog. It's like a convicted wife beater showing off his new trophy wife to prove a point.

I love the way some can never just admit they were wrong about something and move on with a greater understanding. Instead they just keep digging in deeper in to a quagmire of nonsense they have constructed.

So if facts don't suit you, you can just ignore them because feelings? OK good to know where your heads at.

I refuse to believe this is anything but an elaborate parody accound at this stage

I have a little anecdote, I know they are discouraged but I will relate it anyway. I follow athletics, and in the last 4 years I have been tremendously excited by the emergence of Rhasidat Adeleke. A young lady with Nigerian parents, born in Dublin and brought up in Tallaght. I honestly believe she has the potential to be the female Usan Bolt. I think over the next 3 or 4 Olympics she will get golds in the 100m, 200m and 400m.

If I don't get to watch her race live an TV I try catch it later on youtube. Over the last 3 or 4 years while looking at the comments on those videos on youtube (I know, I asked for it) I noticed a lot of the usual racist vitriol. I tended to Ignore it. Last night while watching the Irish mixed 400x4 relay team win Bronze in the world relay championships I noticed a comment "She is not Irish", I was struck by a recollection on another video and went back, same name, same comment. I went back over about 15 videos of Rhasidats races over the last 4 years, same name, same comment.

I clicked on the username and to my surprise found that he had not protected his youtube account. All his subscribtion channels there to see. He had about 100 channel subscriptions, Brexit Party, Tony Robinson and The Irish Freedom party.

The rest of his subscriptions were Lingerie channels, young girls doing clothing tryouts, Female Athleths, female yoga classes.

Once you scratch just a little you just always seem to find that these "charactors" are seriously sad and damaged individuals. Racist masturbators sitting devouring unhinged political opinion on youtube should be a comical stereotype, sadly is it not, its a reality.

I suppose to some people that Justin Barrett was openly saying he was a fascist in the past couple of weeks, has in the past couple of years praised Hitler, quoted Mein Kampf, engaged in Holocaust Denial, adopted Hitler's mannerisms whilst speaking, turned up to an anti-immigration protest in a Nazi uniform (which I'm sure his supporters, sorry, ordinary blokes who just have valid issues with immigration and aren't far right racists, no way, will say was "a joke") and given Nazi salutes, is irrelevant since he's no longer leader of the National Party.