Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

There's a thread about it here somewhere ...

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2024/0515/1449419-asylum-applications/

30K expected this year…extremely close to what the government’s goal on housing completions is

This Influx isn’t going to slow down, so we’re only ever going to be treading water in our existing housing crisis, we’ll never catch up at this rate

At what point are all the people getting high off their own supposedly virtuous farts gonna take their heads out of their arses are wake the **** up?

It is not sustainable. We are never going to be capable of housing all these people. Is there no sense of reality here? Can guarantee most of the cheerleaders are all home owners sitting pretty - easy to act the virtuous one when there’s nothing to lose, meanwhile they prefer a bunch of randomers with no connection to the country over their nation’s youth when it comes to housing access. Despicable.

i don’t understand why they don’t set up a task force to deal with this issue . Experts in logistics and people who know the problems and solutions . NOT NGO’s but a panel like they scrambled together when Covid threatened us .
We dont need clueless TD’s and civil servants fumbling around with no experience of this kind of looming disaster

Nor do we need NGO’s with skin in the game playing their games

Come on for heavens sake get this done

We shouldn't be welcoming this, backslapping Harris or seeing Fine Gael rise in the polls like all is forgiven. Handing out the plaudits.

This is them doing the job they were entrusted to do. This is what should have been happening all along and **** right heads should roll for it.

It took international shame and tent cities for it to happen. They couldn't care less about the people that elected them.

McEntee should be sacked.

It's all about money n lucrative contracts for food n housing

It's meant to be the site of a badly needed new prison. You build a prison there, demolish Mountjoy and turn that into accommodation in a prime part of Dublin.

If the government wants a big field to lash a load of tents into why not Slane Castle or Strabdally. The owners don't mind the land being turned to **** every year for a concert, they might be happy to take a cushy payment from government for a new tent city.

"It shouldn't matter who is behind them", yet you're quick to point out Wilders in the Dutch coalition's response to asylum seekers.

The virtuous will play the man when it suits them.

The policies are superficial and relatively ineffective as individual policies, in Green policy terms, they are as effective as an additional cycle lane.

You're way off Furze. In 2022 alone, 237,000 non Irish gained pps numbers. Some are on work contracts etc and not permanent but the majority are staying around. Work visas, student visas, family reunification etc, there's lots of ways to get a foot in the door.

nothing they do between now and the election will get my vote. They have had years to do this but they preferred to call us all Far Right racists and laugh at our concerns. I simply do NOT believe this Government. Helen McEntee is tone deaf and beyond arrogant in how she sees the general public, O Gorman is never interviewed, never has to explain, never appears on TV, Harris has taken over as the smart PR guy because he talks the talk. That's it.

I won't change my mind on this, way too many chances have been wasted, way too many of us called racists. This is electioneering, pure and simple!. They have blown their chances! Trust has been broken and it will be very hard to win people back.

They have blown their chances with you and with me too if truth be known, but unfortunately we have short political memories here Imv, who for instance would have believed Mr Martin a minister in a government who bankrupted the country would within a few short years assume the position of taoiseach (albeit half-taoiseach)... What are we like at all 🤔a country stuck in eternal adolescence

I think the narrative lately has been a positive start. It finally seems to be sinking in that people aren't stupid, are not far right and are fairly pissed off.

However two things are not being acknowledged:

1. Cutting off the tap on a percentage of the Ukrainians before doing it for IP applicants risks having settled, somewhat integrated Ukrainians move out only to potentially have IP applicants take their place in the same accommodation.
2. Is the category of individuals applying for asylum really important in the context of reported numbers applying for asylum? My thinking is family units applying for asylum is a much more accurate figure than single males\females applying as there may be a multiplier effect down the line if they are approved and their dependants are allowed to relocate?

all they need do when it boils down to it is make housing somewhat affordable to people. We all know why it won’t happen. Too much capital to be lost in Hyde prices falling. There are just such deep rooted fundamental problems in the country that the political will just hasn’t been there to even attempt to solve for decades now. Immigration is now the easy target for everyone who’s disgruntled but the problems are just a symptom of the workings of the whole western world it seems to me.

Great Post. Exactly how I feel. The government narrative now that was once 'far right' is infuriating. Funny how there is election coming up. Honestly they think the electorate are morons.

They are morons.