Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Stop with the misinformation. Your position stating that "nobody has an issue with people coming here to work" is completely incorrect. You either haven't been reading this thread, or you are deliberate pretending posts made in this thread don't exist. This was posted on the previous page and has 33 thanks.

We're sound, happy to meet & sorry to part … until it starts to affect us. Do the sums.

It's quite conceivable that we could be looking at 50,000 non nationals coming to Ireland annually, between those with valid work visas, asylum seekers and temporary war refugees.

If each one of those 50,000 brings in just one extra person - spouse, child etc - that's 100,000 sooner or later.

Over 10 tens years that's 1,000,000 non nationals living here.

These people are often young, fertile and will have children. Even with a reproduction rate of 1, that will soon be 2,000,000 and quadruple to 4,000,000 in a generation.

You could have a young Irish person now who heads to Aus for a bit of craic, work, experience etc. They couple up, have a child or two and decide in 10 years to come back, so they can rear their children in Ireland. Quite common situation.

They'd be coming back to a totally different Ireland, with a vastly changed demographic and the way of life they remember only existing in pockets.

This is not xenophobia, it's a very real and likely prospect. If that's what we want, well we should accept it. If it's not what we want, we'd better start doing something about it quick. What would be good is if the political elite actually established what way we see Ireland developing and not just lecturing us that 'we don't understand'..

Yeah but they're legal so there's no comparison. And it ain't a cop out :)

I am against these mass units sites as much as anyone but those travellers in that site use said field to run their horses and run drugs from so that’s the only reason they’re causing trouble, they’re an absolute drain on Clonmel spreading drugs around the town. Another topic for another day obviously that.

Again, it was clear that this would happen putting the units in this field, it’s only the start of it, if the units get put up I’ve no doubt the travellers will burn em down that night.

Ah Roberto Troy the hardest working TD there is. Had his fingers in so many pies he could of done with a third hand grafted on to his body somewhere.

Good luck with that.

I agree with you that fleeing from one country to another as an asylum seeker / IPA / refugee or whateveryou want to call them , this is legal.

But how many do we take before the ship sinks from the pure weight of numbers ? The government strategy is clueless and without logic.

NGO's and some on here are advocating sure let whoever wants to come here rock up and apply for asylum. That's fine if we had the laws etc to deport the fraudulent applicants. But we don't and the stats from last few years prove that out with the famous Leave to Remain clause. So in theory majority that arrive here stay here.

Now my point is do we stop now or keep going till the whole thing goes up the s#itter and take the usual irish attitude, we didn't see this coming.

Pa straight answer.l

https://extra.ie/2024/05/17/news/irish-news/violent-chaos-asylum-seekers

Is he the lad who boasted he never went to college and had acquired multiple properties, buy to lets by his late 20s? If so, the cap fits.

If you honestly think that, then god help us all. You do realise the accommodation is temporary and 99% of them will end up in state paid/on housing lists afterwards and will be replaced by new REFUGEES FLEEING WAR AND PERSECUTION afterwards? Thus the cycle continues and only gets worse. Go to any state housing estate and see who are taking up the new houses, see for yourself.

You just admitted that they are using hotels, so this shows you are aware of why our tourism sector is collapsing around most of the country. I know you won't admit that, though.

And we wonder why so many of our qualified graduates are emigrating in their droves. Come back in 10-20 years, and see if you still believe your statement. 

More like little Mogadishu or little Lagos.

People of Gaza are pinned where they are plus if they left en masse at the outset it would only allow Israel to roll in and occupy it.

I promise to read a history book if you promise to read the full thread of the conversation I was having with that poster which was clearly centred around our own generational lifetime. Deal?