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Ratings watch thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Channel		Feb		+1 Share
    RTÉ ONE		18.72%		1.2%
    VMT one		12.01%		0.28%
    RTÉ2		6.80%		0.27%
    VMT TWO		4.74%
    TG4		2.45%
    VMT THREE	2.23%
    Sky News	1.28%
    Challenge	1.15%
    VMT FOUR	0.40%
    RTÉjr		0.15%
    RTÉ ONE +1	1.20%
    
    
    RTÉ Total	27.15%
    VMT Total	19.65%
    Sky Total 	7.51%
    


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Channel 	Mar		+1 Share
    RTÉ ONE		19.06%		1.18%
    VMT ONE		13.12%		0.27%
    RTÉ2		5.77%		0.23%
    VMT TWO		4.30%
    TG4		2.45%
    VMT THREE	2.27%
    SKY NEWS	1.08%
    CHALLENGE	1.09%
    VMT FOUR	0.47%
    RTÉjr		0.11%
    
    
    RTÉ Total 	26.35%
    VMT Total	20.43%
    Sky Total	6.71%
    


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I am not sure how the split for Six Nations is doing for RTÉ2, will be interesting to see how the RWC goes for RTÉ2 in the Autumn.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What is/was the point of Virgin Media 4?



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,607 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Was it not inherited from TV3 as 3be or something?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No, they only launched the 4th channel themselves last September but the launch was so low profile not even their own website carried it's listings until Christmas



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    The coronation may have been cheap filler for RTE on Saturday, but the general public were apathetic, to put it mildly, about the coverage, as it failed to enter RTE One's weekly top 20 (rounded off by Mark Moriarty: Off Duty Chef on 146,000). Nothing spectacular to report, as the Late Late topped the week on 312,000, Kin finished respectably with 277,000, but Angela Scanlan's 177,000 is far from Tommy Tiernan numbers, and 200,000 for Ireland's Smartest is surely below the expectations of Montrose bosses for the series.

    The GAA ratings (233,000 for the Munster final, 159,000 for Connacht) show that appetites will only truly be piqued from the QF stage onwards, and the URC doesn't appear to interest the casual sports fan (118,000 for Munster, 94,000 for Leinster). Finally, Virgin Media audiences are slowly dwindling YoY, with neither Corrie nor Emmerdale recording 200,000 for an episode, indeed with some of the latter nearer the 100,000 mark, and I'm A Celebrity South Africa doesn't have the drawing power of the Aussie series, peaking at 114,000 last week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Broadcaster	Apr
    RTÉ	        25.36%
    Virgin Media TV	17.64%
    Sky	         8.71%
    BBC	         6.46%
    Channel 4	 3.52%
    Viacom	         2.86%
    TG4	         2.11%
    UKTV	         1.93%
    Discovery	 1.94%
    
    Channel	        Apr
    RTÉ ONE	        17.80%
    RTÉ ONE +1	 1.19%
    RTÉjr	         0.19%
    RTÉ2	         5.93%
    RTÉ2 +1  	 0.25%
    RTÉ Total	25.36%
    VMT one  	11.59%
    VMT one +1	 0.30%
    VMT TWO 	 3.02%
    VMT THREE	 2.31%
    VMT FOUR	 0.42%
    VMT Total	17.64%
    TG4     	 2.11%
    Sky News         1.17%
    Challenge        1.20%
    	
    Total	        45.11%
    Other   	54.89%
    


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    73,000 adults tuned into This Morning to see the first episode with out Philip, This Morning had appeared a few times in the top twenty of UTV Ireland when it first started broadcasting on Saorview (Terrestrial TV) in 2015. It be interesting to know if it was a once of or if this is the kind of audience seen by TM and just a coincidence as audience number for VMTV ONE are down, with Coro St getting between 144,000 and 173,000 adult viewers and BGT getting just 107,000.

    Tubs last Late Late was watched by 497,000 adult viewers, will be interesting to see the consolidated numbers with +1 and the player.

    RTÉ2 had sport but it top non-sporting programme (The Living Daylights) had just 57k v 352k for Limerick V Cork Hurling.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly



    1. 680,000 viewers (including RTE One+1) and includes those under 15,
    2. TLLS had 68,600 streams.
    3. Angela Scanlon’s Ask Me Anything had an average audience of 183,000 (including RTE One+1)
    4. The series has had 67,200 player streams to date. ~10,000+ per episode
    5. Clean Sweep had an average audience of 227,000, (including RTE One+1)
    6. Clean Sweep has had 338,000 RTE Player streams to date ~ 55,000 + per episode (all eps available now).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    The "Player" figures really don't seem to stand up for me.

    VMTV are investing 2m on an upgrade (or they have invested).

    The report shows that Love Island was the most streamed show on the player and brought in significant increases in audience for the player. However, what about the rest of the year. Back of the envelope stuff puts RTÉ and VMTV player between 80,000 to 150,000 streams a day, this compares to 200,000 viewers for a soap opera on live TV.

    The return of Holly Willoby to This Morning had 71,000 +15 viewers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    PAC and the Media Committee had 114k and 102k viewers respectively, on VMTV. RTÉ News and Oireachtas TV are not counted in the TAM ratings.

    VMTV's Soaps range from 115k (emmerdale) up to 185k (coro st)

    Tonight show getting 80k to 93k for Wed, Mon and Thur, but Tuesday's edition had 113K

    RTÉ2 is filled with GAA, its top rated non sporting show had 92k for John Torode's Ireland, 444k for Dublin V Monaghan live pla.

    RTÉ ONE's Dairy's Dirty Secret had 327k on Monday night.

    Fairy City had between 187k and 212k

    EastEnders had 117k on Wed and 129k on Monday, less than 112k on Tue and Thur


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,294 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    A peak audience of 934,000 people tuned in for the first Late Late Show of the season last Friday night.

    An average viewership of 830,000 watched on RTÉ One and RTÉ One +1 to see Patrick Kielty begin his stint as the new presenter of the world's longest-running live chatshow.

    The programme also received 158,000 streams on RTÉ Player - making it the strongest ever Late Late Show season opener yet on the platform – while social media videos from the show have amassed 7.6 million views to date


    Probably as good as can be expected nowadays. Interesting to see what he'll keep longer term



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    1st night with a new presenter, 1st night following the summer scandals at RTÉ. Lots of interest in the show.

    Overall from what I saw it was fine.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Musicman288


    Are there any figures on what is EastEnders getting on RTE ONE these days? A few pundits have commented recently that RTE relaying it is a waste of licence fee money but afaik they get BBC stuff for free? Years ago of course they used to relay a lot more BBC content, such as match of the day. This current season of Mrs Brown's boys is the first time that there not relaying it with the beeb as it clashes with the late late



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    The BBC move of Eastenders to 7:30pm maybe hasn't helped ratings for both channels. Just judging from last weeks rating, Eastenders only appears once in the Top 20 - Tuesday with 142,000 viewers.

    Would dropping it, and replacing it with something home-produced get something more? Looking at programming around it during the week.

    What it's clear to see is that RTE One is not taking advantage of that good lead-in that the 7pm shows bring them in.

    (Not in the Top 20 would be below 135,000)

    Monday:

    • 7:00 Nationwide 225,000
    • 7:30 Eastenders (not in Top 20)
    • 8:00 Bog Amach (not in Top 20)
    • 8:30 Ar An Sliabh (not in Top 20)

    Tuesday:

    • 7:00 Aistear An Amhrain 174,000
    • 7:30 Eastenders 142,000
    • 8:00 Fair City 207,000
    • 8:30 Food Matters (not in Top 20)

    Wednesday:

    • 7:00 Nationwide 248,000
    • 7:30 Eastenders (not in Top 20)
    • 8:00 Nevin's Irish Seafood Trails (not in Top 20)
    • 8:30 Super Garden 135,00

    Thursday:

    • 7:00 Cheap Irish Homes 256,000
    • 7:30 Eastenders (not in Top 20)
    • 8:00 How To Be Good With Money (not in Top 20)
    • 8:30 Fair City 186,000




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    EastEnders even it is normal Monday and Friday time slots didn't do great numbers, it would be interesting to see the numbers on BBC1 and RTÉ1 +1, and RTÉ Player number against that of Nationwide.

    They should let nationwide go out 5 nights a week, blend it into the Today show, forget about Daytime TV as they are unable to produce it year round.


    7pm Nationwide

    7:30 EastEnders (Friday Hour long edition of Nationwide)

    8pm Fair City (Friday Lifestyle)

    8:30 Lifestyle

    Either that or move Fair City to 7pm Monday to Thursday

    Or you could put Fair City on at 7pm and 8pm on Tuesdays and Thursdays.

    RTÉ made no effort with the Soap changes.

    Neighbours left, nothing

    Eastenders change, nothing until about two months later when the move Fair City to Thursday to Friday Night.

    Return of Neighbours, drop shortland street!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭EdmondShiels3


    Why not move Shortland Street back to 5:30pm. If it was not getting enough viewer why keep it at 6pm so long. They moved Fair city to 8:30 so it would not be on when Emmerdale was on and then moved it to 7:30 on Friday when it was on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    IMO they aren't aware of what they are doing. I don't think any show between 5:30 - 6:30 gets into the top 20 so Shortland street couldn't have being doing much worse than what is currently on at 5:30.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Narrative TV channels Great! TV and Great! Movies added to TAM Ireland, I assume they will start showing Irish adverts (AKA Sony TV | TRUE TV and Sony Movies | True Movies) 0.11% and 0.15% respectively in Sept.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    Record breaking figure for VM/TV3 on Saturday, with 1,378,000 average for the Irish Quarter-Final match.

    RTE will suffer as well with them supposed to have exclusive Irish semi-final match, but no longer have that now.

    It'd be interesting to find out the process from VM and RTE when selecting those games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I suppose it was chance, did RTÉ get an extra Irish game in the qualifying stages? It will be interesting to see if they hold the audience for the semi-finals and finals, generally not as much as the Soccer World Cup.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Not that I think TV isn't on the way out but... RTÉ's player isn't really replacing TV and that means others clearly are.

    RTÉ hope that the player will achieve 100m streams by the end of they year.

    That's on average 12k per hour (365days, 24hours).

    The interesting thing about their press release is that they don't actually release any real numbers except

    July 26th was the biggest day of the year on RTÉ Player with over 250,000 hours of content streamed on the day that Katie McCabe led the Republic of Ireland in a crucial clash against Canada during the FIFA Women’s World Cup.

    [actually that doesn't tell us anything 250,000hours streamed by how many people?]

    and to say that soaps had 20m streams (and they are the biggest show on RTÉ), while not mention I assume this includes Ros Na Run, Shortland Street and Doctors. That's not that many stream across soaps that air about 2hours a week of content each.

    Top 10 programmes on RTÉ Player in 2023

    1 EastEnders

    2 Home and Away

    3 Fair City

    4 KIN

    5 The Saturday/Sunday Game

    6 Rugby World Cup 2023

    7 Happy Valley

    8 Love/Hate

    9 The Late Late Show

    10 FIFA Women’s World Cup

    It is interesting to see the soaps at the top of the list, but I'd love to know the streaming numbers for the top episode over any of the 3 soaps.

    TV is dead and the Soap is dead. Long live TV Soap!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Average audience for 2023



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    Thanks, would you have 2022, just to compare if any channels saw a rise or decrease?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Unfortunately TAM Ireland failed to update the site for Dec and Aug figures in 2022. And I bang on that door :( So below you can see average ex both months.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 838 ✭✭✭Butson


    no major change then in 2 years?

    I presume market share for Sky is similar so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,944 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    How can Channel 4 have almost the same audience as Challenge? My goodness.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,944 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    Yes, true - but even still, there is a huge volume of people in Ireland with a pay TV platform (Sky, Virgin, Eir, Vodafone) or even FTA satellite. These all these have direct access to Channel 4.

    So, the quality content on Channel 4 results in almost the same audience share as a station showing endless repeats of Bullseye and The Chase?

    That can't be right. For me, that then throws into question the rest of stats for the other stations.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    That figure, I believe, is only for Channel 4's opt out channels. So those on getting C4 via sat is not include. I could be wrong.

    Also I'd say Channel 4 is no long considered a mainstream channel in Ireland as it has multiple channels. I think their audience has been diminished because of their suite of channels. The current opt-outs put Channel 4 as the 5th biggest broadcaster, this excluded E4 extra, 4 music, Film4 +1, More4 +1 and 4Seven. (and potential those watching non-opt out services).

    It would be interesting to know how the 26% of viewers who do not make up those figures are broken down by Broadcaster.

    I'd argue that BBC, Channel 4, Channel 5 and ITV make up most of that 26%.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    The Late Late, at 372k, delivers more of an audience for RTE than any potential alternative, but can hardly be said to delivering on the expectations of Kielty's appointment. Room To Improve, on 402k, and Dancing with the Stars, on 364k, are as reliable for advertisers as ever, but one can understand why Bakhurst recently highlighted Nationwide as having potential for expansion, as its three weekly episodes averaged 290k on what presumably is a shoestring budget.

    Little to report elsewhere, though First Dates Ireland (133k) continues to perform for RTE Two, and rather surprisingly, none of the VM1 soap episodes breached the 200k mark despite relatively weak opposition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Top programme on RTÉ2 this week was Investec Champions Cup with 169k with First Dates getting 133k (Adults +15) last week.

    All other shows under 90k

    I though RTÉ2's Selling Ireland's Dream Homes was a repeat but I believe it was new, had just 55k, the only other 2 Irish programmes are repeats My Bungalow Bliss (71k) and Home Rescue (46k).

    Great Australian Railway Journeys had 41k at number 20 meaning all other shows had under 41k viewers.

    This is RTÉ2 for the last decade, meanwhile Bakhurst begins to actually look at where the audience is, well they aren't on RTÉ2. Also the only American imports on the top 20 are movies and the Golden Globes!

    Last weeks schedule



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Interesting to See Ireland AM in the top 20 this week. It has been there before but 2 entries

    Ireland AM on Thursday had 78k and on Wednesday 81k, while the Sunday show had 93k. Did something happen on Thursday and Wednesday? While their Six O'Clock rarely appears, I wonder how the 7 news is doing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    Never seen that before either. Those are some brilliant ratings, and plus it's a 3 hour show.

    Although looking a different way, it shows how poor the prime time offering is on VMTV One outside of the soaps if they struggle to get into the Top 20.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    As The JNLRs are out I suppose we should go take a look at TV: -


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,294 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    @RoTelly how did the LLS turnout over the season?

    Kielty is a better host but it's still the same old crap anytime I seen it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I am not sure to be honest. Going by reports its done better under Keilty but at times it gets less viewers than Nationwide.

    Also you can tell by the audience share and the viewing figures that TV is suffering.

    VMTV ONE is getting 12% in Apr, I don't think it has much on in terms of sport and Coro Street and Emmers range from 120,000 viewers to just above 200,000 viewers. VMTV productions really shouldn't be holding that high a share, may 10% about years ago but they are holding on to 12% of the audience!

    Meanwhile as viewers leave TV RTÉ2 audience share and audience is collapsing down to 6%. meaning a fall in share and a fall in audience. This summer will boost that share significantly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Other channels breakdown


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    VM One doing well with the Six Nations and Cheltenham during Feb and March. I think they will struggle over the summer though. They'll have the soaps being displaced in June as well with ITV showing the Euros - which normally affects ratings.

    Have to wonder what is the point of VM4. I'm guessing VMMore wouldn't even hit 0.2% of a share. 2 pointless channels.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 838 ✭✭✭Butson


    Big difference between reach and share though?

    % share is of a diminishing linear tv market.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    RTÉ2 has a 66% reach while VMTV ONE has a 63% reach, though RTÉ2 has half VMTV ONE share. Both their +1's have a similar reach of 14% and a similar share of 0.31%. (Though RTÉ2+1 only airs part-time). Meanwhile BBC1's reach is at 42% with its share at 4.6% not far off RTÉ2 which has a far bigger reach.

    I'd argue the reach is diminishing no? e.g. if Prime Time TV reached 1.5m viewers 10 years ago, and it now only reach 1m viewers now, but RTÉ audience share 10 years ago was close to 10% haven't they massively lost audience both in terms of reach and share.

    Perhaps I misunderstand Reach.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Ireland AM creeping into the top twenty shows must be worrying, while Emmerdale was out ahead of Coronation Street. Neither Stardust nor Zoo Live did much for RTÉ ONE. Though with the weather the way it was perhaps getting out of the house was on people's minds. Worst figures for either that I have seen (outside 2014/2015 years of UTV IRELAND).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,892 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    The lack of promotion for Zoo Live was strange. I like the premise of it but wasn't even aware of it until flicking on midweek when it was on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭AJB39


    I watched Stardust but not live. It wasn’t easy viewing especially the first episode so I didn’t feel like making it the centrepiece of my evening viewing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Fair City takes up 5% of RTÉ Players over all viewing - I think that's what Kevin Bee is suggesting.

    One main reason for this is that the show is an exclusive to RTÉ, so you have no choice were to watch it, it would be interesting to know how all of the on the Player compare.

    Then if it is going so well why would you cut an episode.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So looking at the TV ratings from Medialive and the share/reach coming from TAM this is my current conclusion

    From 2015 to 2025 Audience have fallen away from TV.

    TV3/VMTV are currently getting the same audience that TV3 and UTV Ireland would have been getting in 2015, but VMTV ONE is currently getting 11% versus 7% back in 2015.

    This means that RTÉ2 lost audiences to other channels and now on the slow decline of TV we see all channels largely retain their share of the audience.

    But open to correction on this.


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