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Getting around Galway

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,400 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    I'd say it's a different beast to build a bridge that could potentially carry a bus to building a pedestrian only one. You're not getting that for free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    3 o’clock on a Wednesday and the whole town is blocked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,185 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    It was choc-a-bloc earlier, going since 13:00. Anything in particular causing it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    I’m so sick of this town.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Its a future proofing concept. I would not envision a bus running on it when even it opens and would just be a bi-directional cycle lane, but build it structurally so that we would be able to run a bus on it into the future i.e carry the weight.

    TBH I don't see much demand on this NEW bridge as a cycle and pedestrian bridge currently until the Woodquay side/Headford Road "retail mecca" gets all the student apartments built



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭39steps


    All schoolkids on Easter holidays so traffic everywhere and it's raining!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,322 ✭✭✭ratracer


    On the flip side, getting into work in the morning has been a breeze this week!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭rustyfrog


    Agree I don't see much demand. I don't see they're spending money on this, the fishy bridge or the new pedestrian bridge at Spanish arch (keeping the footpath).

    These feel like "legacy" projects from the previous chief exec, once he realised the ring road wasn't happening.

    Would much rather see the money spent on connecting up active travel bits and pieces on busy routes across the city.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭rustyfrog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Agree 100% - I am in the same boat. Do the "hard" stuff first Galway City Council. Knock a few walls here and there, take out kissing gates.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭Little My


    Out of interest, what affect do we anticipate from the new school bus rules on traffic? As we all now when there's no schools in the traffic is much lighter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭rustyfrog


    What are the new school bus rules?

    I don't think I've ever seen/noticed a school bus in Galway City.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,561 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Also curious, I admit I might not be as up to date as some but I'm in the dark totally on this



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,561 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    MOD NOTE: Move on now please, no need for this conversation at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,185 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    At least 161,000 pupils currently get school buses.

    In the period up to 2030, the “nearest school” rule is to be abolished, which requires a student applying to the school transport scheme to choose the nearest school to their house and reducing the distance rules.

    Under current rules, a primary school pupil must live >3.2 km from their school to qualify for a bus place. This will go to 2km, then 1km, depending on funding.

    A post-primary school pupil must live >4.8km from their school to qualify for a bus place under the school transport scheme. This will go to 2km, depending on funding. This will significantly expand the number of pupils who qualify for the scheme.

    bonkers electioneering imo, ie. if you don’t have to go to the nearest school you could end up with 10 children living on a road demanding that they go to different schools



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Thanks to everybody on this thread who contributed to the #Barriers2Galway

    Need to eliminate a pile of kissing gates and knock many walls to free up the NETWORK.



  • Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭berrecka


    I must say, its a pleasure to cycle through the forest park behind Dunnes Terryland since the kissing gates have been removed, its certainly an improvement on battling the lights and cars on the headford road. I come straight through from the bridge though, its dicey enough going straight where the cars go blindly through the cycle lane to get into the filter lane onto the Headford Road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Ya challenging alright, all those left turn filters on this junction.

    Cars blocking these ultra efficient cycle lanes is common at all hours of the day on all arms of this junction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,185 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Ooh, Galway's own road spatial project!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Am going to buy the POSTER!!

    They are going to do this

    http://dataphys.org/list/congestion-visualization/

    Its based on this 1991 poster from Múnster, DE

    If ONLY they had seen this in City Hall in the 1990's we would NOT be in the CAR traffic mess we are currently in.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,185 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Colm McCarthy (economist UCD) discussing road maintenance budgets just said on Radio1 that "people have lost their entire cars in potholes in Conamara". Is that true, are they that bad?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Yes it is true - Colm lost his car on this bog road he was driving on when visiting Connemara. He took a wrong turn and what he calls a pothole was actually this bog lake: https://maps.app.goo.gl/vmznGSPWda8ZoMSU7

    How one would drive into that I wonder?

    Tractor with the double bog tyre extensions was able to pull it out no bother.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,561 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Last two comments deleted no conjecture, PM if further discussion wanted, do not ask on thread

    Grem



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Private car 'biggest barrier' to faster, more reliable bus services - Dublin Bus CEO

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0508/1448026-bus-committee/

    mostly discussing Dublin in this article but this line popped out:

    "

    At present, just 2% of the kilometres travelled by Bus Éireann vehicles in Co Cork are in bus lanes, the committee heard.

    "

    I 'd say the Galway City figure is somewhat similar ? Anybody have the percentages?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,185 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Helen McEntee and Drew Harris will open a new garda station An Spidéal at midday today.

    Opportunity to see some of our traffic mess enroute to and from and have a tut tut tut about it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    I walked across the Quincentenary Bridge yesterday from the Headford Road direction towards Westside. When I got to the Newcastle Road junction and waited for the pedestrian light to turn green, I had to wait even longer as 4 drivers went through my crossing after the light had turned red for them. That's not counting at least as many who ignored the 'amber means stop' law and who would easily have been able to stop safely.

    Then, as I was approaching the Browne Roundabout, I saw an elderly lady with a walking stick waiting on the island on the Thomas Hynes Road exit with no one letting her cross. She was still standing there when I got to that island so my blood was boiling at the lack of consideration and I stepped into the road and held up my hand to get the next driver coming around the roundabout to stop and let her cross. He was good natured about it, and we gave one another a nod of acknowledgement, but it was clear that he, like the drivers before him, had no intention of stopping for her if I hadn't stepped out.

    It's maddening that this crossing has been allowed to exist like this for so long, that drivers display such a lack of consideration for their vulnerable neighbours, and that even when some pedestrian crossings are added to this roundabout next year, this arm will be left as it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭GBXI


    I honestly wouldn't blame the drivers in this scenario - drivers can come around the roundabout, exit onto the road your referring to and to stop could be seen dangerous to them in terms of being rear-ended. The answer here is never to rely on good nature but to have a system that manages it well. The pedestrian access to/from that roundabout is an embarassment. It's 2024, how has it not been upgraded? It's heavily used every day by pedestrians. It's also really close to the university and the hospital. The mind boggles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    It will still exist "post upgrade" of the Roundabout the N59 Thomas Hynes and N6 are not getting any pedestrian crossings at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,100 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    As a pedestrian I NEVER want drivers to stop particularly near RAB exits.

    Just keep going and get the fùck out of the way: I will happily wait for the gap, which does always come.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    @GBXI I honestly wouldn't blame the drivers in this scenario - drivers can come around the roundabout, exit onto the road your referring to and to stop could be seen dangerous to them in terms of being rear-ended.

    It's a judgement call. I wouldn't stop if there was another driver right up my rear but, if there was a reasonable gap between me and the following driver, I would.

    It wasn't the case when I did my driving test but I know that more recent learners are told that they shouldn't stop to let pedestrians cross in this case. There's no legal basis for it, and in fact it could be viewed as illegal advice as pedestrians have priority at junctions if they've already started to cross, but it seems to be the received wisdom these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    Each to their own, I guess. I've just driven from Salthill, through the city centre, and out again heading east, and I stopped 4 or 5 times to let people on foot cross the road. It made me happy, and seemed to make them happy, so I guess your view on the etiquette of road crossing is a minority one at best.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,319 ✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    It a minority of 2 at the minimum, because I feel the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,100 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Come back to us when you've even rear-ended, or been the pedestrian who watches a "nice" stopped driver get rear-ended.

    I had the latter almost happen on the old HP/Digital RAB shortly after coming here. There was a Transit van involved. Could have been quite "interesting" if things had kicked off. Luckily I wasn't on the piece of road that the following car swerved onto, and we all went happily on our way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,148 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    You are only taught not to stop to let pedestrians cross 2 lanes - because you cannot be sure the other lane is free or that the other driver will stop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Ya but you've also almost been mowed down by 627 bikes too so.......



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,100 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,185 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Both ends of Wolfe Tone Bridge is now traffic light controlled by pedestrians 😂

    Minister for Transport is there today to inspect it and the new walkway, then walk the Eglinton Canal, walk the Prom, walk the talk so to speak



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭rustyfrog


    Those menacing pedestrians will probably set up a toll to cross.

    The city council have removed the main pedestrian crossing to the Spanish Arch overnight. Forcing everyone around to the new crossing. One step forward, one step back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,185 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Also walking along Claddagh/Grattan Road the past few weeks has been delightful since it's been closed to through traffic due to roadworks. Normally motorists floor it through there to avoid traffic on Fr Griffin. You can hear the birds and get a new appreciation for South Park's location. Should be made semi-permanent



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,100 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Two steps back. Or ten.

    Most people who want to cross to Spanish Arch come down Quay Street, not along the river walk. So most people now have to cross without lights, or do a silly loop to get to them.

    Same as the madness at Dominick St / Raven'sTce: the most commonly used point to cross the road is between Monroes and the Centra. So they put the pedestrian crossing in line with the canal walkway instead.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,322 ✭✭✭ratracer


    I don’t think the residents of the Claddagh would agree with you, with the huge increase in traffic on the narrow streets during the works.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,185 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    So, who's been on the new WTB walkway, looks narrow, was expecting more for the money spent



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Homelander




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,400 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    I still think the best solution down there is zebra crossings/shared street space, but maybe people driving can't be trusted anymore.

    In other news, night time street closures started again last night in the west end. Car diversions in place but lovely place for a stroll in the evenings now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭sgthighway


    If there was a Zebra Crossing there would be constant traffic of cars as there is so many on foot. Lights give both cars and pedresians a chance to move.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,400 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    Traffic lights have a built in inefficiency by virtue of how they work. Every sequence change involves a period where both sides are red/stopped. This is compounded with every sequence change. Then add in the human things like drivers being slow to start moving, pedestrians pressing the button but then crossing before the green man, etc. They have their place but in the middle of a city where the road space is shared so evenly, a zebra crossing is far more efficient.

    Traffic lights that change to flashing amber at peak times when traffic is crawling anyway could be a good approach. I've never seen that anywhere though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭GBXI


    I'd love to see some data to back this up. My instinct is that the opposite is true - that there would be less traffic if there was a zebra crossing at the Spanish Arch. For large parts of the year the lights go red and nobody crosses. The traffic from this is already significant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭GBXI


    I feel strongly that you should, in general, not stop to let pedestrians cross because it is dangerous driving. Especially in the example of the roundabout above. Obviously if there is no car near you, it is not a problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    So Council added two pedestrian crossings at either end of Wolfe Tone but removed pedestrian crossing at the Spanish Arch and the Fire Station. Real pedestrian bottleneck now at the Leonardo crossing point. Car traffic flow is still the main priority in this 50kmph road zone area



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,185 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Tacit admission that drivers don't know how to use roundabouts? How many 'near misses' has there been?



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