Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Sweden does have much higher rape stats but partly because of their definition of rape which includes acts that would be considered low level indecent assault in Ireland. They also include marital rape.

However, having said that, most rapes in Sweden take place within their immigrant community and involve young men of that community assaulting teenage girls in that community.

So the perception that migrant males are raping Swedish women in their thousands is not correct but that there is a major issue with sexual violence in the immigrant community itself is definitely true.

Now, is that something we want to see imported into our society? That kind of subculture?

Mass immigration, as opposed to our traditional model of moderate and small scale immigration which has been largely successful, will change the landscape of Ireland forever, both literally and figuratively.

Maybe you just need to accept that the majority of Irish people don't hate all foreigners?

Id say there was a nod and a wink somewhere in the background for that lad to have the audacity/confidence to try and install those modular homes on his land without permission. He wasn't doing it for the good of his health, they would've been filled one way or the other and paid handsomely.

It's the criminality of 10's of thousands and the complicity of hundreds of thousands. Nobody from that community went to police or the media to put a stop to this and it could not have continued without their support.

This is a huge issue all throughout the Islamic world and has been brought to Europe now due to immmigration.

Just because you're willing to turn a blind eye to obvious issues within a religion and a community doesn't mean that the rest of us have to follow your failed ideology.

It seems to me that no matter what evidence there is you won't listen as it goes against your limited worldview.

probably the usual spin by the Irish Media ,very easy distort opinion polls the easiest trick in the book .

Yea it's all the indigenous fault that the immigrants are committing crimes.

Give me strength

Until relatively recently, Irish society was quite 'rapey', it went on behind closed doors, in family homes.

How we'll deal with that in Ireland is already pretty predictable.

First it'll be something like "NO ANECDOTES" on places where people might sound the alarm. Then it'll be some pretty authoritarian Hate Crime laws just to keep people nice and quiet.

I'm sure Irelands once very vocal feminists will be suspiciously unwilling to talk about Rape Culture anymore. Unless that talk is focused on the past or maybe the huge and urgent issue of men making jokes in private locker rooms.

The only option for normal people will be to just sit tight and hope that they and their families will not be among the unlucky victims.

So by your logic, you would have dismissed worries about Irish immigrant priests moving to the US as xenophobia also?

Before the thread is inevitably locked, what do people genuinely see at the end of this particular tunnel?

If we continue to bring in people at a rate greater than we can provide accommodation then the number on the streets will grow and grow. When does that become an unmanageable number?

If Ireland really isn't full then how long can we keep adding new people into our society at this same rate, or greater? They all need homes and social welfare and access to healthcare and public transport and so on. Are we currently scaling these services to keep up with demand and planning for future demand?

My thinking honestly is a bit pessimistic. I don't think the influx will really stop until the situation in Ireland is so bad that nobody would want to come here. Maybe that takes 10 or 20 years but if we keep going like this we will get there.

Cant help but feel that we are laying the foundations of an absolutely enormous humanitarian disaster to happen in the future.

in everything our governments do, no matter the make up of the parties, its always reactive, never proactive. Until that mindset changes we will never be on top of anything.

I like you, am pessimistic about our future. Our country has changed and not for the better. I believe we are heading for worrying times, and are being lead by idiots who have no concept of the future mess they are creating.

I never claimed you hated foreigners. The vast majority of Irish people don't hate foreigners, hence the reason there is strong support for parties who also don't hate foreigners. Those parties include government parties and also opposition parties. I think simply want a government who will enforce our current immigration laws. For reason unknown, the current government haven't made any effort to do that until very recently. If the change that approach, I think majority of people will be happy with that.

There's simply not much support or demand for anti-foreigner parties. They'll be doing very well to get one seat in each constituency.

Please list your evidence of this otherwise it's anecdotal. You seem to be inferring that all of this stems from the catholic church.

Honestly the way the Gov have handled everything recently I think its rolling downhill so fast that whatever happens they wont be ready to react. Ireland is full to a point that if we cant get our own people housed first including those who are not on any social list but living with parents etc then the more AS they take in the more angrier people are going to become & I do feel there will be a major incident involving AS & Irish people

Victim shaming?