Bundesliga Super-Thread warning post #4542

Tomorrow's Hamburg derby is on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/live/kWVqO6tREuw?si=L7joCEHUnEgjrxIx

2-0 Hamburg. Very tentative performance from St. Pauli. The worst I've seen them play this season. Missed a chance to get promoted at the best place possible. Hamburg also had two goals ruled out after the ref went to the monitor. Third place is still comfortably in Düsseldorf's hands after beating Nurnberg.

Leverkusen hammer the last team to beat them, and ...... Pauli are back!!

23% of Union Berlin's goals came in the first three halves of the season…

Even if they somehow stay up, next season is not going to be easy with those conditions.

And a playoff, if they make it, is going to be a derby game for them against Dusseldorf

Union Berlin is a weird one. The former 'people's club' of East Germany - as opposed to the 'state club' BFC Dynamo - has a great history of genuine fan support and 30 odd years after the wall came down they made it finally into the top flight. An incredible story all by itself. Bundesliga fans will probably be familiar will all that background.

Last season was their most successful ever. Relatively new to the top flight they had a stormer of a season and qualified for the Champions League where they drew Real Madrid in their group. They signed a few high profile players (by their standards) and thought it was only ever going to go onwards and upwards. And then they proceeded to have a nightmare of a season.

Would be shame if they went down but thats definitely on the table now. Currently in the relegation playoff spot they could technically still avoid that but also could get caught for 17th spot and straight down relegation. All or nothing game coming up against Freiburg who are no mugs and can still make Europe. Their indirect opponents for avoiding relegation or the playoff spot are Köln, Mainz and Bochum. All 4 clubs involved in this battle have doable opponents but it also could go very wrong for each of them. If it was to be the playoff spot their opponents will be Fortuna Düsseldorf a club with great Bundesliga tradition and a great fanbase and also no mugs. Big drama coming up next weekend and squeaky bum time.

I think Union's fans and board heads got turned by last year's success and they started to believe their own hype. Significantly some of the expensive free transfers like Bonucci that they signed turned out to be failures and then they made a mess of replacing Fischer with Bjelica who they got rid of recently. Hope they go down tbh, some of the talk around them became a bit bulls*itty the last few years and also because I want to see the Berlin Derby again next season and Hertha ain't getting promoted any time soon.I don't think they will though as Koln have to pull off a miracle to avoid automatic relegation and even if they finish in a playoff spot they'll probably beat Dusseldorf.

Hope Bochum stay up, I've been to few of their matches and they have some great fans with their matches usually having a great atmosphere. Also would like at least two Ruhr clubs in the Bundesliga for historic reasons, particularly as bar Dortmund the rest of the clubs have had issues with Schalke a basket case and Duisburg getting relegated to the Regionaliga this season.

Thought it was Heidenheim that Köln were playing on Saturday. Regardless of whom they're against that's a particularly poor Köln side who only seem to be able to win matches with late goals and turnarounds. That luck usually runs out and I can't see them staying up on Saturday.

Heidenheim hammered Köln are will be in Europe as long as Leverkusen win the Pokal. That's definitely the shock of the season.

Union escaped 16th with a 91st minute penalty to beat Freiburg. Penalty was missed but they scored from the rebound.

Bochum v Fortuna should be interesting. No idea who'll win that actually.

Pal Dardai stepping down as Hertha coach. He'll probably be back after the next disaster.

So Kane doesn't even get a runner-up medal. 😐️

It is and it isn't tbh.

Yes league was poor but once the league was lost and all focus was on CL I wouldnt be too harsh on some of the losses around that time. Also thank fk tbh. 11 in a row is quite enough.

Champions League was pretty good considering the state of the squad. Bayern not exactly at the dizzying heights from a few years ago, you see that on the pitch above all. Going to the CL semi-final and almost making it is pretty good.

The quad has a solid base, not terribly old, there is a top centre forward and with a couple of additions next year will be better.

What is an embarrassing sh1tshow however is the manager saga and especially how they go on about it. Embarrassing. A club like Bayern shouldn't be likes whoring on twitter. Conduct your business like any serious business would and not on fkn social media. Eberl, I dont know tbh. Seems a bit of a clown too many apps on his phone.

Misses out on the supercup next season, too - could have finally won something.

Yeah, they're obsessed about their coaches speaking German, which rules out De Zerbi (and a lot of options more decent that they're actually looking at). Should be throwing the kitchen sink at Hansi Flick imo, best manager they've had in ages.

Did Trappatoni, Cappello, Pep or Ancelloti speak German before they went there?

Yeah in the past some have learned after going there - according to the German journos it's a non-negotiable for the current appointment though, only considering German speakers.

Really hope they don't go for Sebastian Hoeness right now - he'd be much better off staying at Stuttgart and growing there first. Given who his uncle is, it's only a matter of time before he goes to Bayern if he keeps progressing, so he's much better off waiting until the time is right for him.

Amazing to see that Leverkusen's unbeaten run, has been equalled down in League 5, but Werder Bremen B went a step further, and actually won ALL 30 games they played.

This was the final table, with a very impressive goal difference!

Just to make it a little bit "Leverkusen-y", after strolling home in every other match, this was their final game.

Their front pairing got 41 and 50 goals!

Is there even a precedent for a manager getting relegated and getting a jump that size in the same offseason?

Surely can't be true.

OK, they finished 3rd and didn't win the CL, but no need to hit the panic button.

ha, I'm sure he did! probably bit the bloody fingers off 'em! 😅

Josh Cullen for Bayern?

Its like an alternate reality. Since when did getting relegated with Burnley get you the Bayern job?

Bayern have completely ballsed the whole thing up. They should have just sacked Tuchel back in February and went manager hunting then. Not sacking him but telling him he's gone at the end of the year and then going back to him to try to convince him to stay and failing was comical stuff.

A well run Bayern would have gotten Emry who has earned another top job.

Here's what the looks like visually…

Unreal!