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Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XII (The Byrne Supremacy)

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    #27482
    hold my beer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    There's a match thread.



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    #27483
    lonester99
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭lonester99


    jesus luke Mcgrath is garbage



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    #27484
    SaoPaulo41
    Registered Users Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Another Stellar Luke McGrath performance



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    #27485
    lonester99
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭lonester99


    Outside the starting ireland team this leinster squad is garbage lol



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    #27486
    KH25
    Registered Users Posts: 5,860 ✭✭✭KH25


    That was shocking. Some absolutely brain dead decisions in that game.



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    #27487
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 17,169 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Decision making needs to be so much better next weekend.

    Leinster had enough ball in the second half to kick their points and put the game beyond a score and Ulster wouldn't have had the opportunity to steal it.



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    #27488
    Exclamation Marc
    Registered Users Posts: 11,991 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Luke and Harry shouldn't get near a 23 again unless there's an injury or we're resting players in a meaningless game. They were absolutely brutal.



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    #27489
    A-Train
    Registered Users Posts: 4,218 ✭✭✭A-Train


    McGrath is finished and Harry Byrne should be cut loose. He will never push on.



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    #27490
    mr_edge_to_you
    Registered Users Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭mr_edge_to_you


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122154515#Comment_122154515

    I'd be more inclined to skip them and go for Foley/Prendergast. Give youth a chance.



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    #27491
    conquestscarer
    Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭conquestscarer


    Every week it seems to be said that McGrath had a shocker. He isn't up to the standard and we will lose next week if JGP gets injured in the first half 100%. He should consider moving to 7 because he seems to hit more rucks than doing the simple job of picking up the ball and passing it.



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    #27492
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Yeah, there's nothing particularly shocking about his performances lately. They're consistently at the low standard he's set for himself.



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    #27493
    SaoPaulo41
    Registered Users Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122154523#Comment_122154523

    Scary thing is McGrath will be on bench



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    #27494
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 17,169 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    I don't think anyone should be worried about this result affecting Leinster next weekend. The side isn't that fragile. If they were then they wouldn't have beaten La Rochelle twice this year.

    Toulouse may well win, but it won't be due to a loss of momentum from this weekend or anything like that. They're a fantastic team who'll put us under so much pressure.



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    #27495
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 17,169 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Keenan and Connors were our best players tonight. I'd start both next weekend on a 6-2 split.

    Ryan got through a pile of work and it was fantastic that he played the full 80. But I think I'd start Jenkins next weekend and being Ryan on after 50/60 minutes. The former is in great form.



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    #27496
    SaoPaulo41
    Registered Users Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122154748#Comment_122154748

    Our backs seem to be dropping like flies, I would probably go 5-3



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    #27497
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Standards have dropped. There's no denying it. JN has not bought much in. Leinster have topped the table year after year and this season...

    Leinster don't look nearly as good even with the Premier players starting. Shocking loss and display today.

    Congrats Ulster.



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    #27498
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 17,169 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122154767#Comment_122154767

    We've beaten La Rochelle home and away this season after losing a semi-final and two finals to them previously. Of course Nienaber has brought in a lot.

    We've seen a drop in performance from our rotated sides. That's solely down to the departure of Lancaster, but I think we all knew that would happen. His main strengths were developing a playing and coaching structure that was implemented at every level. The academy players all knew the systems and they slotted in to the senior team when called upon.

    I think we're trading off the well drilled nature of the entire squad for bigger performances from the starting 23.



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    #27499
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,137 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122154515#Comment_122154515

    Wild thing is that Harry looked the in form 10 heading into the first CC knockout match.

    His play has fallen apart since then.

    Great argument for 6-2 to not have him near the side.

    Feel it is too late for Foley to push for a final bench spot but didnt do himself any harm



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    #27500
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122154698#Comment_122154698

    La Rochelle are no great shakes. It's chasing shadows thinking that beating last year's champions means anything.



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    #27501
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    LaR are fairly gash this year! There's a better side comingup next week, and I'd prefer if it was LaR. We've lost 5 in the league, crawled over the line v Connacht and nearly blew the match v Saints.



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    #27502
    Madeoface
    Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭Madeoface


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122154748#Comment_122154748

    I thought we lost a lot when Ngati went off. Not overly upset about the loss tho as we'll 5 point Connaught. Ryan played well on return as did Hugo.

    Foley better option than Luke now but he was a solid performer in years gone by too so let's not **** all over him. It's the management that pick the team.



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    #27503
    Former Former Former
    Registered Users Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122154839#Comment_122154839

    well you don’t put any stock in beating the current premiership leaders either so we’re working off a pretty small sample size here



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    #27504
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 17,169 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Losing these games is frustrating, but I don't think it's that big a deal in the long run either. We've a great 23/26 players who can beat anyone home or away.

    I certainly wouldn't go talking down the victories over La Rochelle either. Especially the one in France. That was a massive deal.



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    #27505
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,137 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122154857#Comment_122154857

    Lost 5 in the league and every single one Leinster rested a huge proportion of the first team.

    Connacht win was the same, a complete shadow side.



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    #27506
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122154901#Comment_122154901

    Agreed! But..... I think in the past we win these matches. I feel like there's a drop off this year.



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    #27507
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Looking at Ngati's try, he looks like he's injured as he's running the ball in.



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    #27508
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122154885#Comment_122154885

    That's kind of the point. The Leinster first team has not much of a track record of late. Two matches, against a mediocre La Rochelle and a good Northampton team who decided to knock on 87 times in the first half and dominate Leinster in the second is nothing to build any kind of confidence in the side off

    I seem to remember you pooh-poohing the idea that Leinster wouldn't steamroll Northampton risible. Maybe you now put stock in that narrow victory.

    They could well overturn Toulouse. They might even win the URC. I wouldn't put any money on either though.



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    #27509
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 17,169 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Anyway. Next week is the big one. I think we'll do it. I know there are still some reservations about our rush defence, but I've seen enough in our games against La Rochelle and Northampton to be relatively confident we can cope with Toulouse.



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    #27510
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,886 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Leinster are 100% worse this year than last. But they beat Toulouse handily last year so there is some buffer room there. Let's see.



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    #27511
    conquestscarer
    Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭conquestscarer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122155067#Comment_122155067

    I don't know, we arent as clinical but I think our team could be set up better for knockouts. We learnt the last couple years that you can't go out in finals and just score 70 points. I think our defence is a lot better this year and last year we were playing an outdated system on that side of the ball.



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