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    #14462
    Cyrus
    Registered Users Posts: 20,049 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156117#Comment_122156117

    which he also had against Joshua



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    #14463
    alan partridge aha
    Registered Users Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156117#Comment_122156117

    Ya 100% have to agree, the king of the jungle isn't the biggest. Usyk is an animal, Bellew said it before Joshua 1, underestimate this man at your peril.



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    #14464
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,600 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156146#Comment_122156146

    Yes.



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    #14465
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 38,371 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Its funny that a guy seen this as a completely one sided fight but said Canelo beat GGG in their first fight and clearly beat him in the second fight. If anything GGG was more dominant in the first fight against Canelo than Usyk was last night in his winning rounds.

    Personally I had Usyk 115-112. I can understand why some might have given round 3 to Fury to make it 114-113 but I don't think it was close enough for that to be the case.



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    #14466
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,600 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156167#Comment_122156167

    Is that guy me? You know, the one you put on ignore because you threw your toys out the pram when I dared call Garcia a quitter. Now here you are addressing me slyly to try have a dig.. I don’t have you on ignore. So I’ll quote your nonsense here.

    and I scored fight 1 GGG, fight 2 Canelo. At least do your research before posting untruths. And I never said last night was “completely one sided.” Clear win doesn’t necessarily equate to clearly one-sided

    Wana meet for an IQ test?😖



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    #14467
    Dick phelan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Was competitive but the KD turned it. Had it 115 112 to Usyk myself. Thought Fury messed up playing about in the early rounds. Those rounds were up for grabs if he had been more proactive.



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    #14468
    Charlie69
    Registered Users Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭Charlie69


    Also had Usyk winning 115-112…. fancied him all week (easy say that now I know) very underrated imo and always finds a way to win even with massive physical disadvantages.

    I think the rematch is an even easier night for Usyk.



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    #14469
    GHendrix
    Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭GHendrix


    The fight was won and lost between Round 7 and 9. Fury was in a great position to push for a stoppage but he squandered it. He stayed on the back foot and probably thought he’d stay in control.

    But Usyk had no intention of quitting and let his hands go and landed a big shot. He then almost got the KO and the fight kind of fizzled out a bit in the last few rounds.

    When Fury watches that back I’m sure he’ll be kicking himself. You just don’t move backwards when your opponent is tired and hurt.



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    #14470
    Dick phelan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Also massive credit to Cacae, didn't fancy him at all but he battered Cordina. A guy I always heard loads of praise about but hadn't seen it myself until last night.



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    #14471
    GHendrix
    Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭GHendrix


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156207#Comment_122156207

    I’ve seen a few people say that about a rematch and I’m genuinely curious why you think the rematch would be easier?



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    #14472
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,600 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156249#Comment_122156249

    You think it be harder?

    Kind of a vibe here that Fury only lost because he didnt do this, that and other; as opposed to what Usyk did to earn a great win



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    #14473
    ebbsy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,871 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Wonder will he have his Dad and Lee in the corner for the rematch ?

    Seemed to be a lot of guys giving advice.



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    #14474
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users Posts: 20,751 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156257#Comment_122156257

    It's a one round fight. It could have gone either way , the rematch is the same

    Both guys looked brilliant at times last night Fury Bamboozled Usyk for 2 or 4 rounds in a row & hurt him multiple times with the lead upper cut , Usyk then had Fury in all sort of trouble & nobody would have c9mplained if it was stopped

    Both fighters are unbelievable last night Usyk came out on top a rematch is 50/50



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    #14475
    Charlie69
    Registered Users Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭Charlie69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156249#Comment_122156249

    I thought he controlled the fight throughout to be honest, Fury is a good fighter with huge physical advantages so he was always going to have his moments in the fight and he definitely put Usyk under pressure at times but Usyk knew that too and knew how to ride it out … suck it up if you like. But there was only one fighter dictating things and that was the new undisputed champion. As someone said earlier Usyk “came on” as they say in the fight game in the later stages of the fight and won the championship rounds, I suppose that’s why I think he wins the rematch more convincingly.



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    #14476
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122155944#Comment_122155944

    yea I think I had 1 and 12 drawn. Thought Fury maybe 11



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    #14477
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    @walshb you didn’t get agreement from me? I thought it was much clearer than aj 2 and Fury was in worse trouble than in aj 1. If he’d gone down on the canvass there I’m not sure he’d have been fit to get up. He did very well to negate in 10th



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    #14478
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,600 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156317#Comment_122156317

    me and you in agreement on the AJ 2 win compared to last night’s win



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    #14479
    Cyrus
    Registered Users Posts: 20,049 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156309#Comment_122156309

    did he win all the championship rounds, not sure that he did



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    #14480
    Cyrus
    Registered Users Posts: 20,049 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156257#Comment_122156257

    I think that's always the case when a fight is close as it could have gone either way so you tend to question what the loser could have done differently



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    #14481
    GHendrix
    Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭GHendrix


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156257#Comment_122156257

    I think a rematch would still be 50 50. Maybe 55 45 to Usyk. But I certainly wouldn’t be betting big money on that fight!



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    #14482
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Some of the thoughts I’ve had one last night after watching back the entire card.

    Fury deserves credit and criticism. He did very well to hang in there in 9 and 10. His tactic of uppercut to head and body was successful. But other than the silly showboating he looked more than uncomfortable in there. He was roundly beaten. It’s very seldom you see a backpeddler winning a big fight. For all the sh1t we gave Joshua Fury had the same fear of gassing and didn’t really go for the win. 3-6 he gave it a bit of a go. Round 7 was the turning point but it’s not as though that big snout shot came from nowhere. John Fury did him no favours. Mouthy clown. He’d do well to leave him at home for the rematch. Sugarhill was a vexed looking man. Couldn’t get a word in without that idiot nonsensing. Fury didn’t go for broke to win, even in the 12th. Interview afterwards was pathetic. His footwork is gone and he is in decline.

    Usyk was sensational last night. He put himself in the fire time and time again, wore the leather and backed his reflexes. When he said after Chisora he would become undisputed I sniggered. Well FCUKING done! To think that but for the knockdown 10-8 round he’d have lost or drawn that fight is a disgrace. The rounds he won were almost all crystal clear and the ones you ‘could’ give Fury were more like 10-10s. He was a punch away from ending the fight and was never in anything like the same trouble himself. The guy is an ATG and is the best of this era. Hero.

    Wee word on Agit. What a guy!! Brilliant performance. I’m quite excited for what he might bring in the next few years. Sanchez looked far too pumped up and had no stamina. I expected better.



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    #14483
    ebbsy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,871 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    I actually think as well the ref was right to let Fury go on in round 9.

    Too big a fight to stop it. Let them go down and stay down.



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    #14484
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156369#Comment_122156369

    He was borderline able to go on. Fair enough to give him the chance but he got it tight getting back to his corner. His performance in 10 and 11 was impressive. That could have gone badly wrong though.



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    #14485
    Dr.Tom
    Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭Dr.Tom


    Id be willing to bet there will be no rematch



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    #14486
    ebbsy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,871 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156373#Comment_122156373

    Fury has no choice, he must avenge the only man who has beaten him.



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    #14487
    Dr.Tom
    Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭Dr.Tom


    Of course he has a choice. You "activate" the rematch clause,it's not mandatory. Naseem Hamed comes to mind.



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    #14488
    Manc-Red_
    Registered Users Posts: 384 ✭✭Manc-Red_


    Superb fight, had it as a draw myself but in fairness the brilliance of Rd9 from Usyk probably just edged it.

    Credit to Usyk, two weight warrior now that beat a man that looked likely to finish undefeated himself.

    Better Born Lucky Than Rich.



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    #14489
    ebbsy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,871 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156386#Comment_122156386

    I am not saying it is mandatory.

    For his own legacy he has no choice.



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    #14490
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,600 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156335#Comment_122156335

    Yes. But not all. 2 judges gave him 2 of the 3 championship rounds, and one judge gave Fury 2 of the 3 championship rounds.



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    #14491
    Charlie69
    Registered Users Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭Charlie69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156335#Comment_122156335

    For me he did… the last round could go either way but for me he won the fight clearly enough, I would go as far as to say that Usyk was probably expecting a tougher fight.

    Fury definitely didn't look himself or as confident in the lead up to this fight, I think he knew Usyk was not only a very good fighter but wasn't easily intimidated .



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