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My autonomous lawn mower thread/blog

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Slot the kerb too. Diamond in an angle grinder. Couple of minutes job.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭WildWater


    An update on my Luba2 5000 experience. Firstly, a big thank you to a couple of the Luba guys on here that gave me encouragement and advice. Top tip number 1: update the firmware! At first I thought I had a dud, but once I updated the firmware all went perfectly. In short, this has worked a treat and is a very impressive piece of kit. I will be honest, I did have my doubts about going with a high tech solution, but so far, I'm delighted I did. The mapping is incredibly accurate and the thing just does what it says on the tin.

    The easiest place for me to position my RTK was on the garden shed which is at the back of my property. This has 100% line of sight to the back lawn (1050ms). However, it has 0% line of sight to the front lawns. I could move it elsewhere on my site but it would have been a PITA in comparison to installing it on the shed. The good news is it mapped and cut the front lawns without any issue. Delighted about this.

    Mapping was very easy. I have three areas. The largest is out the back which is 1,050ms and has 16 no go zones (mainly trees). I didn't time it, but I had that mapped in less than an hour. 5 no go zones on the front lawn and two on the little side lawn. Total mapping time was less than 2 hours. I'm going knock out and turn a few kerbs to make ramps and then I'll add my channels.

    Yesterday, I cut a large section of the back lawn (I initially just mapped out a big section that had no no go zones and set it off) and the two front areas. Today, I set it off to do the whole back area which it did without issue.

    Two other tips. I had my grass cut during the week (second time this season) so it was nice a short to start with. I would recommend this. In one small section (which is really nothing given the size of the garden) it had a bit of trouble with the density of the grass. (More dead moss than grass.) A quick bit of rake work sorted that out.

    Overall, I'm very impressed and delighted to be getting rid of my ride on. Despite being well looked after and kept in the shed, that thing game me no end of headaches. An added plus, is I gain a really significant amount of space in my garden shed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    Not sure I fancy cutting my nice driveway up.

    That will work if the tarmac is level with the grass but I am guessing he has some sort of kerb in which case he has a bit more work to remove kerbs and build some sort of ramps.

    Yes I have a kerb, I could make a ramp for it easily enough though I think.

    I might just get one robot for the back for the time being, its the largest area, I could cut the front manually for now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Not really cutting it up most road surfaces have tar separation. Really simple job tbh. Much cleaner than a speed ramp which would be far more damage tbh. 🤷



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭WildWater


    That's exactly what I was doing yesterday evening. 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭blobert


    Hello there,

    I'm looking for advice on a robot mower for a fairly large (circa 900m2 or so) lawn which is basically triangular in shape.

    Along one side is a border to a flowerbed and along the other sides are borders to gravel.

    I have an outside socket about 3m away from the lawn to use to power it and some level of Wifi signal which would be strong at this socket but less so as the mower is further from the the base.

    I'm looking for somthing very reliable and with as little maintenance as possible.

    My builder recommended an Husqvarna mower with guide line which seemingly they will come out and put in place.

    I see there are also wireless options such as the Luba 2 mentioned here which in theory sounds better though I'm also wary of fancy tech that may be less reliable. I bought 2 x fancier Roomba models for cleaning the house and they are fiddly and don't work well.

    Any advice would be much appreciated. I'm happy to pay more for a product if it will work well and be reliable. I'm not that interested in fancy options, just somthing I can largely set and forget.

    Thanks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,652 ✭✭✭Thud


    Husqvarna doesn't necessarily mean reliable if you read back through the thread you'll see a lot of issues from Husqvarna owners with wheel motors, PCBs etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭MoodeRator


    I also finished setting up my LUBA 2 at the weekend and very similar experiance to WildWater above. Very please with it so far, the set up of bounderies was a lot easier than expected, thoough I still have to retrain the bounderies at a couple of places. One was where I has it going to close to some Laurel bushes and it got caught, and the other was at a curb next to the driveway where is felll and got stuck. But this is easily rectified. Very imppressed with how accurately it cuts the lines in the grass and leaves I nice look to the lawn. Great to now have a few hours made spare at the weekend, and also not having to wait for dry weekends to cut. As we all know, if you are only able to cut at weekends, you can go a month without cutting due to rain, now I can sit at work and just the LUBA out when ever we get a fine day



  • Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭pete6296


    Hi

    Looking at the luba 2. Lawn is 2400sqm.

    Sloped rear garden. Would the 3000 be fine?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭MoodeRator


    I believe all of the current 300s in Ireland are gone, and not due for another 10 weeks. For the extra money I just got the 5000 as I could not wait any longer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭MoodeRator


    Also just to add that the Parkside garage in LIDL does actually fit the LUBA! :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭blobert


    Thanks for the replies. Maybe I'll try the LUBA one so.

    Any thoughts in terms of speccing the size of them?

    My lawn is under 1000m2 so in theory that one will be fine. But I've seen in some of the reviews that the mower will have to go recharge during the cut which makes it take a lot longer.

    I'm wondering if I went for the bigger battery one (I think the 3000 and 5000 have the same battery) would it be able to cut about 950m2 all in one go to save time?

    I know from running Roombas in the house it's annoying if it has to go back to charge in the middle of a clean for a few hours when ideally I want it running at specific times when there is nobody at home etc.



  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭LubaDriver


    They've hobbled the 1000 imo and it's not worth it. The battery is smaller (too small tbh) and it has a limited forward speed. They also have a reduced number of zones and no go zones. My personal opinion is that the 3000 is the minimum viable option.

    The hardware, other than the battery is exactly the same as other models, it's a software lock that limits it's features.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Jack_wicklow


    For your lawn size, the LUBA 2 should do the trick nicely. As for the battery life, opting for the bigger battery models like the 3000 or 5000 could indeed be a wise move because the 1000m2 LUBA has a less powerful battery. LUBA! It's a solid choice for sure.

    I'd suggest checking out Mowers.ie I bought my LUBA 2 there and they're a reliable source and might still have some models available.

    Now about the Husqvarna, my cousin had a fancy one and faced a heap of issues, especially with those wheel motors. It's a shame when you put your trust in a brand and it lets you down.

    That's actually why I ended up going for the LUBA 2 myself. After researching and reading reviews, it seemed like the most reliable option out there. Plus, the feedback from other owners was overwhelmingly positive.

    Cheers…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭WildWater


    I would generally be pretty tech weary also. Low tech, simple, tried & tested is an attractive proposition. The first thing I did was read back through this tread and then I started to research the brands that people were recommending. I considered Worx, Kress and Luba. I really did not fancy the hassle of laying a wire around my site. I figured that to do it right I should wire around all my no-go zones and that would have been a serious PITA. I was also under a bit of time pressure, my ride on is kaput and the grass was, well, doing what grass does! I watched some youtube videos and aside from the satellite controlled business, I was also impressed with the overall functionality design of the Luba particularly the wheel design, AWD and suspension. (The aesthetic design is pretty snazzy also.) My site is very flat but it has it's fair share of little bumps and hollows. I was put off the Kress (satellite version) by the fact that you can't set up the perimeter and no go zones yourself. Thus, Luba it was.

    Re the set-up. Had I thought to update the firmware the set-up would have been a total breeze. The biggest PITA I had was getting a bracket to mount the RTK. I got an aerial bracket from ScrewFix. The first one was too small. As in not enough horizontal clearance. The larger one just gave enough clearance to clear the gutter on the shed.

    I've only done two cuts of my lawns, but the thing just working perfectly. Obviously, with only being a new owner I can't speak to reliability or maintenance. I could be crying into my app yet!



  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭LubaDriver


    If I had a larger budget and didn't care about price I wouldn't have bought Luba. I'd have gone with husqvarna Epos. It's a much more established brand, with a dealer network and good parts availability. Even now I still think husqvarna are a broader company, and the long term survivor. If they stop making robots, they have lots of other products, and lots already in the market. Parts and support are likely to persist.

    Mammotion on the other hand is a skunkworks spinoff of Agilex robotics. While that is a successful robotics company, it is very small, relative to the $50bn size of husqvarna. The real risk for Luba, as I've mentioned before is that the company folds. As it is largely cloud controlled, if the servers die you will be left with very limited control.

    The more they sell the more likely it is that the company will continue to grow and thrive so that's something that all owners will want. It would be wrong though to not mention this risk as it is in my opinion by far the biggest. It's a risk that all the new startup mower companies have though so it's not unique.

    Whether it's for you comes down even now to your price to risk tolerance. It's a very good physical product, it's software is serviceable if somewhat buggy, it's frequently updated and the company does seem to take feedback on board.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭IrishHomer


    I have 0.6 acres or 1500 square metres

    I'm a long time fan of Husqvarna I currently have their tractor ride on and a self drive push mower.

    Can someone please recommend a robot mower? I want to sell the rideon and I'll keep my push mower:)



  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭Bedouin79


    ambrogio 250+. Gone for a service today will report back on diagnosis.



  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭Bedouin79


    thanks for that. Booked in for a service will report back.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,461 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Some advice folks...

    The area in along the fence is very spongy. I've balded it with the push mower and also strimmed tight to the ground around the trees but I'm still getting a lot of mower jams in there.

    Any tips to improve it? Kress 101e nano.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭denismc


    Im guessing it's getting wedged between the trees and the fence?

    Have you considered letting the grass in that section grow wild? It will make a nice contrast with the cut lawn.

    You then just tell everyone you are doing it for the bees!😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,461 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    It's not wedging against the fence no, it seems to be bogging down in the spongy soil & grass.

    Letting it grow wild isn't an option.



  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭LubaDriver


    If its bogging down, would a layer of grass reinforcement or chicken wire give it that extra bit of traction?

    Failing that, a bit of ground improvement is necessary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,461 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    I was wondering about scraping the surface down to the soil and then laying a few rolls of turf.



  • Registered Users Posts: 433 ✭✭Dozz


    Hi All.

    Am having a bit of trouble with my Robomow RC 308. It will cut away for a few days and then stop showing an error code E3 (perimeter wire).

    I have checked everything and all seems okay. If I plug out the base station for an hour or so it will work away again but next morning the error is showing again.

    Am confused as it's an intermittent fault now.

    Have the mower 6 years and has been working like a dream up until now.

    Any advice would be great.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Can be a few things.

    1. There is water ingress on your cable meaning it's weaker than before and can have intermittent connection faults. You'd need to check the resistance on the cable. Do you have any links on the perimeter cable. These can fail.
    2. The base station connections aren't clean or loose and need a sanding and tightening up.
    3. The PCB in the base station is shagged. I have and others have had slugs eat the pcb and short the board.
    4. The base station isn't getting enough current from it's transformer meaning not enough current around the perimeter need to check the transformer output and also be 100 percent sure that it's connection into the base station isn't loose or has water ingress these can get loose and fail from environmental conditions.



  • Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭SocialSpud


    Hi folks.

    I'm close to finishing a brand new lawn and so will be getting my Worx Landroid L2000 set up soon. Should I place down the boundary wire and charging station after the top soil has gone down before seeding, or wait until the grass has grown a bit?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I'd say after seeding and pin it in with the provider plastic stakes.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭SocialSpud


    Thanks. My main concern is that I would damage and trample on the new grass as I walk on it and will be on my knees as I peg the wire down etc. Am I overthinking it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Leave those sections free of seed then put cable down then seed. Probably over thinking it though. You'll sort it 👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,461 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Managed most of the day, started at 12 and was out 3 or 4 times. Then it started to rain, and down she went...

    Dug a wee track with the right wheel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Technophobe


    Hi all

    Still have not set up my Greenworks mower but plan on doing so soon…

    Have a LIDL Parkside one working away so have an idea what needs to be done, but am still stumped on how to wire the narrow strip between relevant lawn areas..So, the initial area to mow is a back area where the charging station will be located but larger area to be mowed is a rectangular front lawn that is fairly straightforward (few trees etc). However, to get from the back lawn area that will be mowed out to the front lawn, the mower will travel along a narrow lawn part at the side of the house that has a laurel hedge and kerb either side of it…Its about a meter wide (at narrowest) and 60 feet long before it opens out into the large front lawn. The instructions state that you should use a Guide Wire (essentially the same wire) in such instances and Splice and Guide Wire connectors are provided.

    So you would if I understand it correctly (I probably dont!) create 1 loop on the back lawn into the splice, then run the guide wire out from the splice along the narrow strip into another splice and also bring 2 wires out of the splice to create the front lawn loop….

    Its the only way I can see it working…Does that sound feasible and correct??

    Would I also have to run the guide wire from the splice back to the base charger I wonder?

    Thanks in advance for help




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭MoodeRator


    My understanding of loops and guide wires is that you have ONE loop to be the boundary of the whole area to be mowed, then the guide wire for you would go from the base out through the narrow path to the middle of the far point of the front lawn. This is just my thoughts and I am sure that there are far more experienced users here to help



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Guide wire creates 2 loops as its attached to the middle of the big loop. Guide wire can provide power on a non connected cable it needs to be connected at either end.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,461 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Few before & after pics, 2 weeks in.

    And around the back:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,113 ✭✭✭amacca


    Anyone have any recommendations for outdoor plugs for charging stations out of interest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Technophobe


    Not sure I fully understand, sorry..

    Are you saying I am correct in my understanding in that I should create an initial loop area for the back area and then run the 2 guide wires into the splice connector and then the guide wire out from this splice through the narrow area to the next area and create another loop using another splice??

    Thks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Technophobe


    Plenty on Amazon, haven't purchased yet but lots of reviews etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭denismc


    As, the other poster said lots on amazon, you can buy them "unwired" so you can feed the lead through a hole in the wall of your shed or garage and connect them to standard 3 pin socket, its a fairly simple diy job.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭denismc


    Depending on the mower model you will have one or more guide wires, one for the main area and one for your secondary area.

    Your loop wire should be continuous going from the base station around the main area, across the passageway around the secondary area, back across the passageway and back to the base station. Where the boundary wire crosses the passage way the outgoing and the return wire need to be at least 1 metre apart. The secondary guide wire goes through the middle of your passage way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Technophobe


    thanks but maybe again i am being stupide…but my marrow area is only a meter wide so its impossibel for them to be that far apart??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭denismc


    I just read the manual for the Greenworks mower and it says that the minimum passage width is 60 cm, it also says that the guide wire needs to be 30 cm from the boundary wire so if the guide wire goes through the middle of your 1m passage then it should work, although if it was me I would try to widen that passage.



  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭LubaDriver


    Sunshine and mowing :)



  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭pajoguy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭denismc


    Those stripes are impressive, can they do a centre circle and couple of penalty areas though? 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭sligopaul




  • Registered Users Posts: 701 ✭✭✭bamayang


    Hi, have a smallish area about 200sq Metres. Can anyone reccomend a suitable option for this keeping the budget on the low side? Dont mind doing guidewire or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint




  • Registered Users Posts: 701 ✭✭✭bamayang


    Has it been in store of late, or have I missed its window?



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