Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

The question is not in the formal process in the link. Are you sure you’re not confusing with NGOs discuss with the formal process?

Well, in a similar vein, the idea that employees of NGOs are advising asylum seekers how to 'cheat the system' is surely bogus. Anyone doing this would get into serious trouble with their managers - they can only advise people according to whatever guidelines have been issued. Go on a solo run and they would bring a load of trouble on themselves.

If you think the European and local election parties are going to be won by anti immigration parties I've some magic beans to sell you.

The Germans laughed at the fledgling Nazi party one time....

I don't need to educate myself. I've forgotten more about modern British history than you'll ever know in your lifetime so give this junior cerl level drivel a rest.

There are far more immigrants entering the UK both from within and without the EU than before Brexit which hugely undermines your argument that Britain was turning insular and less welcoming to foreigners. Net migration hit over 700,000 people there last year with the majority coming from 3rd world nations.

Ireland would collapse with a similar sustained rise in immigration. In fact, our reaction to a few hundred tents on mount street and the grand canal shows that we're exactly alike with those British people who voted for Brexit.

The ordinary men and women of Ireland can't understand why these people are here after bouncing around the EU for years and why we are supposed to feed and house them for an indefinite period with nothing back in return.

I can accept some Irish people don't agree with everything I believe in, but that does not change what I believe in and know to be factual information by one iota.

Can you accept the same? Somehow you seem to think you can throw about sweeping statements for the general population.

Work away, anyone with a brain knows that the statements you are throwing about are only believed by a small minority within Ireland nowadays.

Brexit was driven by anti immigration sentiment and was largely based on the fact that the UK didn't have control on their borders. So they voted to leave. Now, what happened after they left doesn't change the fact and reasons they voted to leave. Everyone except the people who voted to leave the EU knew that leaving the EU wouldnt make any difference on the number of asylum seekers they were going to receive.

Of course I accept that. I never claimed every Irish person thinks the same as I do. I accept there are a small of Irish people, like @john123470, who believe integration is impossible, who think "these people" (i.e. foreigners) will "will use their number to strongarm local elections."

As I've said, the upcoming elections will tell where.Irish people stand on those.issues.

When some says this, it blatantly clear what their position is on immigration. Stop pretending otherwise.

Why is it so hard for the pro immigration lobby to accept that Irish people do not want their culture / values diluted and replaced?

Funnily enough, this tactic did seem to work a year or two ago but not anymore. Anyone who mingles socially with groups will see how much more comfortable people are nowadays about speaking their minds regarding the asylum seekers/refugee situations, in public especially.

It stinks of a last-resort tactic as they know they're in the minority now and the "BIGOT, RACIST" shouting tactic does not work anymore either. The only place that still seems to work like that is the little reddit Ireland forum, but that place is near satire at this stage and mods just ban anyone who does not fit in the echo chamber.

Incomers will integrate as long as numbers are small, they are obliged to. When numbers are substantial though as they are now, different ethnic and cultural groups will form their own cliques and 'ghettoes'. The phrase 'birds of a feather flock together' is as true as it ever was.

A cornerstone of our policy re refugee and asylum seekers has to be to restrict and control the inflow, so as to facilitate integration and not allow groupings to form. John is right.

I’d not pay to much attention to that TD.

Just ignore JCMCN, she'd say anything to portray herself as the poster-child for EU wokeness, and is increasingly out of touch with the Irish people who support legal Immigration but not mass-illegal immigration. It's woke politicians like her who are pushing ordinary people into voting for "far" right candidates in elections..

There's not a chance Ireland can opt out of EU freedom of movement rules without leaving the EU and Single Market.

Also, going down this route would mean Irish people would no longer have any automatic right to live, work or study in the EU27 or the EEA.

@john123470 if my memory serves me correctly, Rodder’s multiple language tweets went out in Feb 2021 so before the Ukraine war.