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P Diddy the next Epstein/R Kelly?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,394 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    I can’t tell if you’re using my post as a springboard for your own thoughts on parenthood, or whether it’s something else entirely which I’m certain those people whom you consider fall below your standards will take no heed of 😳

    It does remind me though of the period in the 80s when children emulated their role models in popular culture such as Rambo, Superman, etc and role models making something of a resurgence in modern popular culture - Barbie! The only caps I ever popped were the toy guns and rifles bought for us by our parents, relatives and neighbours as presents. How any of us didn’t regularly end up in hospital with injuries had a lot to do with our parents dismissing injuries as “only a scratch, g’wan!” 🤨



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,167 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Soundtrack by R. Kelly. :)





  • I think it's rather pathetic that some posters have sought to associate the misconduct of R Kelly by showing photos of other celebrities with R Kelly at some point in the past (to discredit the celebrity by association).

    Anyone photo'd with R Kelly in the past doesn't make the same people photo'd guilty of the same crimes.

    Seriously? Is there some degree of maturity with regard to evidence here?

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,394 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack






  • I meant, showing photos of celebrities or presidential candidates with R Kelly doesn't make those celebrities or presidential candidates guilty or associated with the same crimes as R Kelly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,394 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    I got that much, it was the ‘alleged’ part I questioned is all.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,197 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Maybe Joe and Diddy go sniffing children together



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six




  • Registered Users Posts: 9,874 ✭✭✭buried


    Am I supposed to know who these gadges are, or did you mistake me for somebody else, or what's going on at all at all?

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    Clearly you know nothing about hip hop or rap, when I post a picture of Ultramagnetic MCs and then you don't recognise them. You complain about an OG like puff daddy being famous, and then moan about part timers like Mf Doom not being recognised.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,874 ✭✭✭buried


    lol That's not the 'Ultramagnetic MC's' buck, unless three of them have miraculously turned into women and even more miraculously another three have turned into white men.

    You wanna check yo algorithm before you wreck yo algorithm

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    What's wrong with white rappers and lady rappers? You need to make sure you're connected bro.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,874 ✭✭✭buried


    Nothing wrong with it, but the 'Ultramagnetic Mc's' had neither so the picture you posted isn't them. Hold on a tick and I'll find out for you who them gadges in your pic is.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,874 ✭✭✭buried


    lol so unfortunately this is the OG's who you posted

    https://www.udiscovermusic.com/artist/stereo-mcs/

    The Stereo MC's

    "Thanks buried"

    "you're welcome Citizen Six"

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,457 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    The only positive thing Shane Lynch ever did was when he punched this c***t.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭badabing106


    Word on the street is that Jay Z is alot worse than Diddy.

    Diddy posted this on his insta and left the comments open!

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5ZTAHSP27g/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,051 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    The video which has emerged today is a hard watch.
    He paid the Hotel 50k to delete the footage but someone kept a copy.
    should be in jail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,851 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 635 ✭✭✭maik3n


    He has now responded to the video leak.

    https://news.sky.com/story/p-diddy-rapper-sean-combs-says-video-of-him-assaulting-singer-cassie-is-inexcusable-13139380

    As much as it pains me to say it, with Chris Brown being welcomed back into the fold with open arms after the Rhianna incident, I think Diddy can still come back from this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,426 ✭✭✭jj880


    Not so sure. Seeing a photo of Rihanna's swolen face and hearing what went down is bad but seeing this video is on another level. All about how Diddy is perceived. I think he's done and going to jail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,102 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    never liked the guy.. always just felt there was something monumentally off about him….. proven now, 100% IS….

    Let’s be honest, if someone like Paul McCartney wrote songs containing some of the misogynistic, abusive, sexist shîte that passes for ok in Diddys world.. ohhh…Because #gangstarap…. He’d be cancelled in 5 minutes , same Metallica, Coldplay, U2 or anyone not of that genre… where it’s just accepted… 😵 constantly bigging up violence, sexism, criminality…. And not to be questioned, in fact protected, so is anyone surprised ?

    An absolute fûcking ghoul, always was, just now, proof…



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    I think you need to be able to separate the art from the artist, or their artist persona. And I say this as someone who doesn’t understand the appeal of this music genre at all.

    Assaulting someone in a public place with guaranteed cctv is pretty stupid, but it’s more impressive that he didn’t get the footage deleted for good. I have no doubts that he could have had he approached this properly, so he probably felt too safe.
    Begs the question why she decided to stay, but that will probably just be answered when a post trial tv interview deal is offered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,457 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    You seem more put out that he got caught and didn't successfully cover his tracks than the fact that he was battering his girlfriend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,629 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    I seen this video earlier, checked here, there wasn't much traffic. A couple of posts highlighted it alright. Dirty 🐁, denied everything to the hilt. Thug! Never thought he was any good at music. He's more a producer these days. The only song I remember really of his was a Biggie tribute which was a cover of a Police hit. And all the rumours going around, the raids and after seeing this, you gotta wonder what else is true.

    Haven't watched his apology video. Though I have seen the links as well and chat about what it contains. Do I need to? He's only made it because he's been exposed as a complete liar. I heard he didn't mention the victim's name even once, possibly for judicial reasons and potential lawsuits. Conniving to the nth degree.

    Edit: Another reason why he doesn't mention Cassie's name, it could be a control thing in his mind.

    Post edited by sligeach on


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    I’m not put out by either of these things. Surely you agree that he must be stupid or that he must have felt invincible if he disregarded the importance of the recording?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Too busy casting aspersions at the victim of the assault to condemn the act itself.

    Just that he was stupid or reckless to get caught.

    Thats what comes across in your posts.

    Speaks volumes.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    I don’t see the point to condemn the assault because it’s “proven” by the recording. He obviously did it so what’s the value in commenting further on it. I find it more interesting that he did not move heaven and earth to get rid of the evidence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    What does it being recorded on camera have to with you refusing to condemn it?

    You dont see the point or that would run contrary to the general misogyny and victim blaming of your posts?

    If it wasnt recorded would we expect posts refusing to condemn unproven actions?

    Always some excuse isnt there?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    Why do I have to condemn it in order to contribute to the thread? Can we not just discuss the material?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    When you don't condemn the assault, instead you cast aspersions about the victim - and no doubt, if there wasn't footage of it you would be casting aspersions as to the truth of the victim's account…

    And the most you can muster about the perpetrator is that they were 'stupid' or 'reckless' - then it becomes obvious your posts "discussing" the material are just dog whistling approval of misogyny and tolerance of the behaviour of the men carrying out such assaults.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    That’s your interpretation of my post, nothing else. Personally I don’t see any benefit in commenting on the morality of the assault, but prefer to discuss the event and surrounding circumstances themselves. It doesn’t warrant personal comments against me either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Earlier you said you wouldn't comment because it was documented in the video. Can't keep your story straight.

    Now out comes a different excuse once the misogyny and victim blaming in your posts is called out. That's the content of your posts being attacked btw, so don't try to play the victim here - the victim here is Cassie. The perpetrator of the reprehensible assault is P Diddy. Not that you would know it from your posts.

    There is a lot of benefit in challenging such attitudes towards women and abusers when manifested in posts on this thread.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    I said that I didn’t see the point in making moral comments on the assault. You see what happened in the video, so why would you need everyone to express shock and horror at it? I will not add any emotive language just because you deem it a requirement. The same applies for their names - for me it adds nothing to the discussion. You are free to post differently to me if you like, but I will not add faux outrage just to appease you.

    Surely we have derailed the thread enough by now and can move on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    And you would express moral comments about the assault if there was no recording? Nope. You'd be doubting the victim's account of it. Any excuse.

    Why would 'faux outrage' be required, when it is a recording of a woman being brutally beaten?

    Sums up the entire amoral tone of your posts in a nutshell.

    Why would be faux about it? Do you think it is ok to beat a woman like that? And if not, why go to these lengths to avoid saying so?

    It is clear, you don't make moral comments on it in your posts because that would require you to express a negative moral opinion about a male perpetrator of domestic violence against women - and as we have seen in this set of posts, any excuse will be reached for to avoid doing so.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    I do not express moral comments because I don’t have to. If you paid attention to my posts you’d notice that I do not care about people, and that includes most victims of any sort, as well as perpetrators. I can’t change that, but it doesn’t mean that I can’t comment on threads discussing people or events. So yes, adding emotive language would be faux outrage in this case.

    The video speaks for itself. If you are bothered by my lack of condemnation then feel free to ignore my posts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,426 ✭✭✭jj880


    @odyssey06 is this your first time meeting Jequ0n? 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    You are posting in a thread about a vicious assault on a woman. If you "do not care" about people, if you "do not care" about victims and perpetrators of such an assault why are you even posting here? Something about the incident is drawing you to comment on it, why this incident and not others?

    Expressing moral comments would not be 'emotive' language. Even if one does not feel emotional connection, one can reason an reasonable intellectual logical argument as to why laws against such actions are in place, and that such conduct is wrong, and can be called out as such.

    Do you think it is ok to beat a woman like that? Do you think it is correct that such perpetrators are judged to have committed wrongdoing by society and accept the reasonable basis for such laws and judgments?

    And if you are free to express 'amoral' perspective, then likewise others are free to point out the amoral basis of those questions \ perspectives. Or you could add your own such context.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    This thread is about the whole P Diddy scandal that seems to be slowly unravelling. It’s not just about this video/ assault. If it’s evident that a crime was committed (and captured by the camera) why would I need to add a personal commentary that it is reprehensible? It really doesn’t matter what my personal feelings on this matter are. He has evidently committed a crime. It’s a fact so there is no need to comment further.

    People need to be judged in a courtroom, but by social media. In this case he is fair game because he missed his chance to settle the affair adequately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    If you don't care about the perpetrator and you don't care about the victim… as you declared above - why would the scandal cause you to care enough to post? Your claims are contradictory and are not convincing.

    The amoral tone in your posts comes across as condoning such actions as this vicious assault, that the only thing he did wrong was getting caught.

    Such a view is reinforced by refusing to give straight answers to a simple question like:

    "Do you think it is ok to beat a woman like that?"

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    I am reading and contributing for the same reason as many others. It entertains me and I am intrigued to (maybe) find out about how the network operated. I don’t see why I need to justify my interest to you, or who you think you are to demand that people answer any question that you throw at them.

    My moral view on the matter is irrelevant. What he did is a crime, so it’s black and white, and not a moral question. I do not condone the attack, but it’s not a moral question for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Criminal acts can also be subject to moral judgment. The moral reinforces the legal. Both are important. We see this for offences \ misdemeanours that are deemed illegal but perhaps not immoral. In the past such conduct towards women may have been nominally illegal, but not subject to social \ moral condemnation - and appear to have been more common \ tolerated. It is important to reinforce that this is an act both illegal and morally reprehensible.

    Would you express a moral judgment if it was reprehensible conduct that was not illegal? Or would you fall back to another excuse or expression of disinterest?

    There are no demands in my posts and the reason why you were quite reasonably asked to explain your interest in the thread is when you replied to my post with a statement like this where you declare such disinterest:

    "I do not care about people, and that includes most victims of any sort, as well as perpetrators."

    After such a statement, it is entirely reasonable to ask then why you are interested in the topic at all.

    But we'll leave you at being "entertained" and "intrigued" by how a network of sex and drug traffickers operate - rather than, as might be expected, concerned and hopeful that law enforcement can shut down such operations.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    Moral judgment is not something that interests me much, although there are some things that will make me angry. Violence against people does not interest me unless I care about the person. I have explained this before.

    Thank you, I hope you enjoy the topic as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,051 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    The apology was pathetic.
    Only sorry he was caught.
    No defence for this saddo.

    Don’t think this is the end either, only the beginning.

    As for the victim blaming here…pathetic



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,432 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Yeah I can't with the whole "why did she choose to stay?" crap. If it was that simple then no one would ever be the victim of prolonged domestic abuse. Unfortunately, it isn't. Victim blaming doesn't help anything.

    Imagine what he was like behind closed doors if he could act that way in a public place and knowing there would be cameras



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,170 ✭✭✭benny79


    How has he not be arrested with all the allegations yet? I know there only allegations but the FBI raided his houses surely the found something to arrest and hold him.. R kelly 2.0



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,164 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Mixture of things. The majority of the allegations are historical so the criminal statue of limitations has expired.

    He is alleged to have been involved in "sex trafficking" that is federal so that is why the FBI raided his houses.

    But they are only allegations, to get something like that into a criminal trial you obviously need solid evidence, willing victims and witnesses. It also obviously needs to be true.

    This scum bag is beyond wealthy, he can pay for silence like he did for that poor misfortunate lady in the video or he can fight any criminal charges with a massive war chest to spend on fancy lawyers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,426 ✭✭✭jj880


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2024/05/22/netflix-buys-sean-diddy-combs-documentary-after-bidding-war/

    A docuseries about the allegations of sexual abuse, rape and sex trafficking against rapper Sean “Diddy” Combs has landed at Netflix months after its producer, Curtis “50 Cent” Jackson, started teasing the project and posters for a fake documentary started making the rounds on social media



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,629 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs arrested in New York, his attorney tells CNN

    Combs – who has been in New York City since last week – was arrested Monday at the Park Hyatt Hotel on 57th Street in Manhattan and taken into custody by Homeland Security Investigations at approximately 8:15 p.m., a source familiar with the negotiations tells CNN.

    The arrest was made based on an indictment that is expected to be unsealed Tuesday morning, according to a statement from Damian Williams, US attorney for the Southern District of New York.

    The charges and details of the case against Combs are unclear at this time.



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