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150KTubs - future career in Virgin Radio and other soulful pursuits **Mod: Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,962 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Yet only a couple of days ago regarding Callan, you were straight on telling us all that his audience figures had dropped "as I predicted".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭nonetheless


    I wanted to see if there were any improvements or changes made to the presentation of The Ryan Tubridy Show from my last experience so I just listened to the first hour as the format of the remaining next two will be copied exactly.

    Each hour consists of about 7-8 links for which the overall sound is just a mess, no seamless integration from music into presentation and presentation into music - very erratic. There are too many links containing unnecessary content generated by Tubridy and examples of the presenter not finishing his words - for instance mentioning Saturday as Saat, taking breath and then quickly charging onto another trajectory. He doesn't appear to have the ability to mix his audio into the opening of a song which may contain music at its start and end his link in sequence with the beginning of the start of the songs vocal. The end result is a harsh sounding -segmented presentation. The show is a poor attempt to fit a square into a circle and I don't believe that there is anyway that this show could actually attract listeners.

    He is now talking about Roy Keane's dog. I'm out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,016 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I listened to Callan today, doing a little bit of waffle, play a song, then chat to an author, and just thought to myself that our Ryan must be absolutely kicking himself as to how he has royally fdcked up his career.

    That would have been him in his element today, earning really east money for very little work. Plus he could have been finished by 10am, abs been out walking in the sun by 11am, with the rest of the day his own.

    Instead he is away from home, probably paying huge rent, working until 1pm, for so much less money.

    What a mess he made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,026 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Senior Hurling



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭SharkMX


    It would have been NK who organised and then advised him to take the dodgy payments. So he surely must be trying his best to get back on Tubridys good side now. Dont think it will be too long til they part company.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Brian Scan


    The Irish Independent's "well placed source" says £50,000 to £80,000.

    The Business Post's "well placed source" says £50,000 to £80,000.

    Buzz.ie quotes an "insider" saying: “His profile just isn’t big enough in the UK, but he could be taking home between £70K to £100K."

    So it has been reported that the speculation is that he would be paid between £50,000 and £100,000.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭Expunge


    Yes. A little bit of contrition and humility at the time and it could have been oh so different. He relied too much on his agent and probably should have sought other advice at the time.

    Even until the last few moments with Kevin Backhurst, it was salvageable. I pity the fool, as Mr. T used to say.

    Now, based on those RAJAR numbers, he carries the stench of failure - something they don't prepare you for in Blackrock College.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    examples of the presenter not finishing his words - for instance mentioning Saturday as Saat, taking breath and then quickly charging onto another trajectory. 

    I have only heard brief clips and I can't get over how difficult he is to listen to. I never listened when he was on RTE so I'm not sure if he was always like that.

    I switch back to Q102 when his show is over because I like easy listening around the house or in the the car, and it's straightaway back to someone who has a pleasant voice and manner of speech. That's all I want really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Brian Scan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,968 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    With such awful listenership figures, you’d have to wonder if Noel “Duck Egg” Kelly is considering jettisoning the former golden child Tubridy now???



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭swine


    I tuned in for the first time since January out of curiosity.

    After EMF / Unbelievable, Ryan launches into a book recommendation (Hagstone by Sinead Gleeson). Despite it being a recommendation, he says "let's read the blurb" which is an odd way to sell a recommendation.

    "I hear the siren call of the West of Ireland calling me back, even for a break"

    Careful what you wish for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    You can believe what is reported or you can't that is up to you.

    As it is a commercial for profit company he is more than likely on a base payment at the reported 50k and the rest is incentive based on listenship and advertising take up since he is not a recognisable name in the UK marketplace he would have to earn the higher end by bringing in the listenership and advertising revenue to prove his worth to that compnay.

    However you are again fee to believe whatever you want believe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Not in my head he's not, haven't thought of the tosser till I saw an article that his audience had fallen from previous incumbent.

    Life lesson in the big bad world for Tubridy where you have to survive on merit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    Noelly babes took on a product to sell in the first place because said product had guaranteed status, except it didn’t and it’s failure has put Noelly’s operation and methodology into big question. Would be better going back to Willy Wonka’s chocolate factory now. Reputation is everything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,962 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    And in that respect Tubs' lack of humility and contrition did the Irish license fee payer a favour.

    The proposed offer to Tubs of €170k was crazy and showed, even with Bakhurst, that there was some unconscious bias, perhaps based on previous Tubs salary, that he was in any way worth that phenomenal sum. Hard to see how he can ever get back to that gravy train now that he has been commercially found out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Id be dubious about fair city beating home and away. I hear people talking about h&a from time to time (and the in laws still regularly tune in) but never about fair city (apart from discussing the salary for the photographer role).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,582 ✭✭✭Tork


    I wonder how would his radio show have gone if he had kept his mouth shut. Even though the RTE scandals are no longer getting the airtime they did, none of it has really gone away. Would his position have become untenable if he'd stayed on Radio 1? Would he have lost listeners?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,846 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    The radio show would likely have chugged on with a marginal reduction in reported listenership tbh. I'm open to correction on this but afaik the 9am news was rolled into tubridys numbers, added to the fact that the Jnlrs generally do not seem to stack up in the context of a changing culture around media consumption.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,425 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    yeah, probably would have lost about 13,000 listeners 🤣



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I think he would not have been able to resist spouting about how he felt so unfairly treated, once his feet were back under the desk. I am still incredulous at the fact that he was being offered the job back.

    I didn't get to watch the appearance(s) before the committees but I saw a clip of the impassioned speech about how his name had been mentioned so many times, in news reports, or whatever. He felt very hard done by and he wasn't going to have the cop on to move on, without having his say.

    His diehard listeners, or indeed those who listen to Radio One out of habit would probably have stayed with him, I guess. I wonder too, how those who worked directly with him, would have felt, had he returned that time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    I’ve always had the impression that Bakhurst became increasingly aware of the full cost of bringing Tubridy back as the weeks ticked along and into negotiations.

    The public mood was mixed but internally it was said to be far more negative towards RT. Then when it was agreed to put the issue to bed and RT continued to try to score points against RTE KB knew that Tubridy was a complete liability and had no choice but to cut him loose and let him unleash his crazy talent abroad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭Loblox


    The first show would have just been Ceelo Greens "**** you," on a loop, with the occasional "And now, we move on to liars."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    They would have had to sort out a completely new team for him, consisting of people who had little previous interaction with him, maybe newer people who were still making the tea in the back room.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    Why? What happened with his exsisting team? Did he burn his bridges with them as well?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,694 ✭✭✭Tow


    They all took pay cuts while Ryan lied to them about talking a pay cut. You also have to remember RTE only pays the big bucks to the talent and management, the rest of his team would be on a fraction of his money.

    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭nonetheless


    Although RTE is a different monster, his original production team at Virgin Radio were replaced quite quickly since he started and since then has had a particular producer and a tech op team assigned to him. There can be many reasons for this but I would not rule out the experience being complex or challenging.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,968 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    did RT ever attempt to “make amends” with the production staff colleagues and people he deceived for years in RTÉ?

    Or did he act as if nothing was wrong?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,026 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    the latter.

    Which is still his stance to this day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,582 ✭✭✭Tork


    Some people are more equal than others when it comes to pay cuts in the state sector. It's never the people at the top who bear the brunt of cost-cutting for any length of time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,858 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Didn't work that way for civil service and anything tied to civil service wages. Higher % cuts at the top that were unwound last.

    Made hiring for certain pegged skilled roles very difficult.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,582 ✭✭✭Tork




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭Higgins5473


    wow, RTE really have their finger on the pulse. Or were they thinking, sure we’ll leave it up, he’ll be back in no time.

    https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/ryan-tubridy/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,529 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Nah, that's just an archive of his programme. It was called that until August 18th by the looks of it, then changed to 'The Nine O'Clock Show' from Aug 21st-Jan 26th. Now called 'Oliver Callan'.

    Can't remember when Tubridy shot himself in the foot, then reloaded and shot himself in the other one, but it was around then.

    Oliver Callan is on since June 23rd (subbed by Brendan Courtney for a while). His intro to the first programme on Friday June 23rd is worth a listen, just the first 2mins 30sec. Has a dig at Tubridy, acknowledges the staff are getting it in the neck, and that they are plssed with Tubridy.

    https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/ryan-tubridy/2023/0623/1390765-the-ryan-tubridy-show-friday-23-june-2023/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭animalinside


    I think we're in agreement but talking about two completely different things in case this wasn't clear - I'm talking about the official RTE viewing figures while you're talking about the reality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Iguarantee


    Let’s not forget, Dee Forbes is a dishonest sack of ****.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Yes, I'm questioning the validity of the methodology that produces the official figures.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,337 ✭✭✭leath_dub


    Marian Keyes on his pod today. Still fishing from the same small pond, it seems



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Shan Doras


    Most people agree that his best work was The Full Irish Breakfast on 2fm back in the early 00s, it really is interesting thinking back on that time how different radio was, in the sense that Tubs was completely free to play The Beatles, Frank Sinatra the Ella Fitzgerald whenever he wanted to and that was most days, Indeed I remember one fine hot morning in the summer of 2003, Switching on Rising Time with Maxi on RTE Radio 1 and she was playing crazy in love by Beyonce while Tubs over on 2fm was playing I must have that man by Ella Fitzgerald. Those were the days



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    I’d rephrase “his best work” as “the absolute limit of his ability”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭nonetheless


    He sounds as awful as he does now as he did back then in 2003. The fact he got away with playing any of those artists at length just proves the mess that RTE is - no idea who they are broadcasting to and no respect for format. He continued to output the same blithering, incoherent speech rambling and pointless car crash links on 2fm as he is doing now. Tubridy has never had any "best work" as he simply does not work.

    It was Tubridy getting his way like a spoiled little brat - doing his own little 'JACK FM' and playing whatever HE wanted. It must of been disheartening for other folks at 2fm in proximity to see the freedom this little nepo babe was getting due to his connections at the top of RTE's food chain and also for what is supposed to be a CHR driven music radio station?

    RTE nepotism taken to the stratosphere.

    Post edited by nonetheless on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 658 ✭✭✭Paterson Jerins


    It's laughable that this poster gets away with such trolling.

    Callan living rent free is the docs head. The doc loves kicking Callan but if any poster says anything negative about tubs, then the toys leave the pram.

    Also, It's is beautifully delicious that buttersuki was and is correct about everything!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,890 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I think it the only in fairness that we can give Tubs that and Tubridy Tonight, weather we like it or now.

    The Full Irish boosted 2FM's radio show (I stopped listening after he started waffling about how more students were considering arts degrees over science and IT), never really watch Tubridy Tonight but it was something different for RTÉ, however he desperately wants to offer his guests some sweets from the jar of sweets under his table!

    My thinking is that he thinks the different things he did on 2FM and RTÉ1 is just the right format to try on the British public.

    BTW Tubs ramblings are a way to copy Gay Byrne, Byrne might go through the headlines and at the end something might pop into his head and he'd do this thing where he knowingly ramble for a bit and the move into the break, Tubs flitters like this constantly with no regard. He reads the head line "Kings new red portrait" ….. Have you see it ! I mean come on !, its a floating head just there in the middle of a vast red back drop… I don't know if you have seen the Irish Presidents portrait now that's classy… like the days of old … Can you imagine Cary Grant wearing that?…. I mean come on .. and another thing the red is very like the wrapper to the special K bar packets you know the ones … yeah there was a girl up in Donegal went viral for wearing clothes like cleaning products … Donegal if you have been you know you know " Producer press next on the playlist.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,337 ✭✭✭leath_dub


    Tubridy, as his wont , was projecting himself as a character, a stereotype, a persona back then. While he went on to push hard hsi "Toyman" and latterly "Bookman" back in his "Full Irish" days he was portraying himself (and was often referred to as) as a "young fogey" - hence him playing old jazz classics on a supposedly pop station

    Everything with Tubs has been and is a projection. Nothing is genuine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,026 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Everything with Tubs has been and is a projection. Nothing is genuine

    This.

    This all day, week, month, and all fcuking year long.

    The only thing genuine about the man is that nothing about him is genuine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,026 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Alongside a photo of him looking all Hugh Grant-y, the magazine gushed: "He should run for political office, he's that charismatic

    Yes, they are actually talking about Ryan Tubridy…. The man who's currently 'broadcasting' to less people in the U.K. than he broadcast to previously in Ireland, in a country with about 12 times the population of Ireland…. a man who can barely string a coherent link together in-between playing Ed Sheehan & Taylor Swift songs… (even Irish people can barely understand what he's on about most of the time)…

    The man who just released (to great fanfare) his long awaited (and in some quarters long demanded) book podcast featuring some of heavyweights of the literary world… "which is apparently doing huge numbers on YouTube (you know, kids n stuff, mp3's downloads, napster, internet)"..

    • Ep1. 4k views (1 month)
    • Ep2. 1.6k views (4 weeks)
    • Ep3. 1.2k views (3 weeks)
    • Ep4. 1.3k views (2 weeks)
    • Ep5. 0.6k views (1 week)
    • Ep6. 0.1k views (12 hours)

    The man who, although technically didn't do anything wrong, and was still in a very salvageable position (go into PAC, say sorry, go back on air, say sorry, give back the €150k, and eat a bit of humble pie) still managed to balls it up so much that he ended up where he is now…

    Mr F_[king Charisma eh…?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Even if Tubridy had been some kind of Terry Wogan / Gerry Ryan lovechild, a broadcasting colossus whose door was being constantly hammered on by British and US media, it would be a fairly shocking state of affairs to think "Mr We're-in-it Together" trousered lots of secret salary top-ups at a state broadcaster while the people around him who do the actual work were taking cuts to pay and conditions….

    but to think it was one of the most inept individuals ever put in front of a microphone who was doing this? That level of brass balls is almost admirable if it wasn't so despicable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭nonetheless




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,962 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    A nice chunk of money indeed, hence should be paid back as he promised unconditionally to do.



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