Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

What’s your position on this then? Can you clarify?

It appears you agree with it when it makes no sense whatsoever.

Would you not also agree that a Ukrainian refugee is much more likely to be in need of our help then a “refugee” who arrives here illegally and does not disclose identities etc?

Well covered on Drivetime on RTE this evening. The Ukrainian ladies none too happy to move to Lisdoon from Ennis, not so good transport links and further from services. Well you know what, if you wanna live in Ireland they may put up with what Irish rural people have to deal with in terms of lack of transport and services. Then there was Igor & his girlfriend who might lose jobs. Well Igor, there's plenty of work to be done back in Ukraine and he'll be very welcome home I'm sure. Complaining about the quality of your situation should be far down the war refugees list of thoughts.

Counter balancing this was the owner/ manager? of Durty Nellies, a well established business near Bunratty on the go for more years than I can recall. He reported that his business was decimated, little or no night time economy and little accommodation to be got locally by visitors to the region.

Would Roderic O'Gorman & Catherin Martin please stand up and give an account of yerselves. It's a disgrace how domestic tourism is being wrecked on the altar of these policies. One lad interviewed thought it was a trade off, that we take the farm subsidies from the EU and to repay, suck up the extra population.

One things for sure, the chickens are coming home to roost in the first week of June.

The Ukrainians in the hotel in Drumshanbo have been told that that can’t bring their pets either and have to to sort that out themselves. They’ll have 48 hours notice of where they’re heading. It’s in that journal article. So after paying millions out in vet bills…….

As lotus flower said above. An absolute mess.

Am I hearing this right. Greedy hoteliers are now kicking Ukrainians (who have paperwork and whose country is at war) out in favour of recently arrived AS (many of whom have no paperwork) because there is more money and in the meantime local businesses are being decimated because the tourist economy is gone.

What have we become at all??? There's an interesting sub context here. Many Irish people are making as much hay on this as they can get their hands on full well knowing it is destroying their local communities. They don't care though as long as they get their few euro. Meanwhile jobs and businesses are lost.

We could well end up turning on each other in a big way.

Yes agreed, there should be no problem at all. It's perfectly reasonable for the state to manage the accommodation and location of war refugees. It's disappointing to hear complaints about it, no-one is entitled to be accommodated in specific places that they prefer. Sure, we'd all like that.

So you have no issue with kids being taken out of schools then.

Yes Arthur, the reason (and get this) is because it's a graph of the IPAS accommodation occupancy -

Nice one - Muddy the waters with the overall increase in the EU when we're talking about Ireland specifically

Those masters of misinformation (the BBC) have Ireland's increase between the two compatible years 2019/2022 at 186% - it's way more now obviously

BBC

An annual analysis of migration figures shows how Ireland experienced a sharp rise in most types of immigration in 2022.

The top three countries of origin were Georgia, Algeria and Somalia, accounting for 45% of all applicants.

13,651 non-Ukrainian applications for asylum in 2022 and of those, 45% were from Georgia, Algeria and Somalia

Remind me again which languages the tweets went out in

Latest figs on state/hotel accom for our friends

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c727n712n47o

The vast majority are not from the war zone. They won't have any animosity leveled at them.

I'm beginning to wonder if this all ends in a massive war or genocide in Europe at some stage.

It's fanciful until you remember that 110 years ago a war which resulted in 40 million deaths started over less.

We already have a war going on in Europe, and a lot of very pisxed off citizens.

The one thing that doesn't change in history is human nature.

As has been pointed out previously, that graph tracks occupancy, not the actual numbers of claims.

As can be seen from claim numbers, the number of people arriving was increasing steadily in the years prior to COVID and O Gormans tweets.

Above graph sourced here.

https://www.rebelnews.ie/2022/10/26/not-a-refugee-crisis-a-housing-crisis/

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by about 600 extra per year. The rate of increase after 2021 is through the roof.

Very interesting link and surprised to see that Germany has more refugees than us.

Source figures here .

One might think the USA would do more given they in large part were responsible for the Ukraine crisis according to John Pilger's prophetic 2014 article.

USA has about 4.5 times as many UNHCR refugees as Ireland while having a landmass over 135 times greater than rep ireland.

Michael Mcdowell and

Michael mcnamara and

Peadar Tóibín..

If people could put in their sig wuo to vote for it would probably help.