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What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭TokTik


    That depends on if he was on remand prior to the case, that would count against his sentence too. 25% automatic remission is ridiculous too. You’d maybe keep if for lesser crimes, but stuff like this and Larry Murphy you should have to earn remission, not just be given it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    That depends on if he was on remand prior to the case, that would count against his sentence too. 


    It doesn’t so much count against his sentence, but rather the amount of time he spends in prison -

    She handed Mr Bily a headline sentence of 18 years, due to the significant aggravating factors, but reduced this to 13 years because of mitigating factors, with the final two years suspended.

    These mitigating factors included his young age, guilty plea, and that he has indicated remorse.

    Judge Behan also backdated it to when he was first detained, meaning he will serve a maximum of 10 more years in prison.

    https://www.radiokerry.ie/news/slovakian-man-sentenced-to-11-years-for-unprovoked-tralee-attack-in-which-he-stabbed-woman-nine-times-357767



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,577 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    Well, it would just mean his sentence would start from the date he went into prison, he still serves the time.

    I guess remission is a carrot when in prison, it's automatic if they behave, but if they don't it's taken away, as far as I know



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭TokTik


    You have to misbehave extremely badly for any of it to be taken away. I know of a few lads who’ve been in all sorts of trouble inside and got their full remission. Gets to a stage where the PO’s want rid of them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17 Captain cabbage


    Christian minorities have been persecuted, and murdered in Middle Eastern countries to eliminate all. Convert or die. That is the end game.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭randd1


    One major positive of multi-culturism in Ireland; the food.

    I had a Chinese the other night, it was savage. A fortnight ago, a kebab. Last week, herself made a lovely pasta dish. This on top of various spices/herbs, cooking techniques for good old fashioned Irish food.

    We've never had it so good in terms of grub.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,383 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    I suspect the BBC will be reviewing their polling policy lol

    https://x.com/UltraDane/status/1792253128345255978

    link



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    We can be assured that would never happen in Ireland, RTE and Virgin would ensure that it was the other way around and the public were not being given misinformation.

    Or wait is it disinformation?

    Either way the stuff they now pedal reminds me of the dribblings out of a slurry tanker.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users Posts: 753 ✭✭✭concerned_tenant


    That's definitely been an upside.

    But it's not all or nothing. We could have had more controlled migration into the country, still had that benefit, whilst also retaining the advantages of managing migration better.

    In other words, multiculturalism is good — but like many things, it has its limits.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    The problem is multiculturalism has come to mean we allow diverse cultures and more specifically ideologies to co-exist, but still often segregate themselves from our own secular christian influenced culture and society.

    The problem with that is as one of the most insular non compatible non changeable diverse ideologies grows drastically in numbers, it not alone wants even greater segregation but it wants our culture and society to change drastically to suit them.

    And if we don't then we can get social unrest and even extreme violence.

    There are other cultures and ideologies that can co-exist without ever needing the hosts to change, but there is one that will never allow full integration and has been based for over a millennium on ultimately subsuming their hosts.

    I am not allowed discuss …



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,887 ✭✭✭enricoh


    A woman from Botswana claims the oul fella wants to chop her up in a ritual sacrifice. Naturally enough she only felt safe by coming to Ireland. None of the other 20 countries between here n there would cut it!



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,532 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    You couldn't make it up, immigration officials must often wonder whats the point in making any decisions at all when AS can just spend our money in the courts to reverse everything they do.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Rosahane


    …nothing wrong with dribbling from a slurry tanker… especially if it's on the road in front of a horde of cyclists 🤣



  • Registered Users Posts: 753 ✭✭✭concerned_tenant


    If ever there was a clear example of lying to secure economic migration, this case would be at the very top.



  • Registered Users Posts: 753 ✭✭✭concerned_tenant


    Just a question for those people supporting multiculturalism.

    As a purely hypothetical question, do you think it would be a good thing say, for Lagos in Nigeria, to move from having 97.7% of the population identifying as ethnically and culturally black Nigerian, for that to drop to say 36.8% in 2024 i.e. 63.2% of the population identifying as white, Latino or Asian etc.

    Second to that, do you think it would be wrong for that minority, now 36.8%, to express concerns about what has happened their city over a relatively short period of time? Would they be racist to express those concerns?

    It might be a hypothetical question, but it nonetheless has an answer.



  • Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭aziz


    And probably get fast tracked for citizenship so she can head back for a holiday



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance


    The bottom line here is and we all know it multiculturalism hasn't worked out anywhere in the world it has been attempted. The question is then why oh why does a single person believe it can miraculously somehow be different here?



  • Registered Users Posts: 753 ✭✭✭concerned_tenant


    Multiculturalism has failure etched into its DNA for the same reasons why communism fails – both are directly opposed to the human nature of self-interest and self-preservation.

    The nation-state was generated precisely because of people’s tendency to reject people who are different to themselves. Not in a nasty way either, but it’s how communities and ultimately the nation, developed over time. It’s how Ireland developed. Multiculturalism will always instil dislike and suspicion between communities for that very reason.

    Let’s take a hypothetical example.

    Let’s say that Poland receives 100,000+ immigrants from Libya and a small percentage of those immigrants commit burglary and murder.

    In an ideal world, the right thing to do is to not associate the minority causing crime with the majority. But some people in Poland will. Again, it’s human nature – it’s an unavoidable reality. In turn, some immigrants develop resentment against Polish people, asking the question: “why are we being judged on the basis of a small minority who commit crime?”. In other words, some immigrants develop racial prejudice against the Poles.

    And so on and so on and so on.

    Dislike and enmity will always develop. Communities will always live side by side – culturally, morally, socially.

    But let’s say the above is resolved because both sides reach a kind of rapprochement. One group is performing better economically than the second group. One group then feels more marginalized, arguing, “why have we been marginalized by suppressing our rights?”. The other group responds, “why are we responsible for your failure?”.

    It’s a never-ending cycle of division.

    In an ideal world, the above division wouldn’t take place. But we’re dealing with human nature here, and no matter how hard we try to artificially circumvent that nature, it will never work. It never worked with communism, and it similarly fails with multiculturalism.

    Diversity isn’t our “strength”. Diversity is division – endless division.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Because you know we are Ireland, we are always different …

    Or some such shyte.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    Would people say its true to say that the results of multiculturalism are the likes of Bradford, Birmingham, Luton and so on in the UK.

    God help us all if this is what we're heading for.



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