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Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭Blind As A Bat


    I'm actually very worried. Here we are with people having nit-picking arguments about modular homes (no disrespect intended really) but there are also serious issues around what we're doing to our society with this influx of refugees and asylum seekers.

    A few days ago a woman in her 80s on holidays in Killarney was mugged in the town and left with head injuries and a broken arm by one of the residents of Tudor Lodge. Now that he's been charged and appeared in court he can be named, Russian surname.

    The Guards in Killarney received a bomb threat on social media. They're looking into it. The guy who's believed to be living in Killarney states:

     “F**k you Irish c**ts, f**k you all trying to act nice but you are f**king s**t.”

    This is me going out to you all. Ireland’s gonna be dead. You are all gonna die, especially here in Killarney" before threatening to “ to drop a bomb on Killarney Garda Station.”

    “I am gonna f**king wheel in there with a bomb on me,” the male states before saying “You think I am joking? You think I don’t have terrorist friends around here,” before the video ends.

    The population of the town of Killarney has been increased by nearly 50% - 10,000 locals, and now more than 4,000 refugees and IPAs. That's just not right.

    If we're letting in so many men surely there must be some violent ones, mentally ill ones and criminals amongst them?? What are we doing? And is it only a matter of time now before we have some terrible incident?



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Roderic O’Gorman can get as defensive and arrogant as he likes about the tweets, the fact is that those tweets and the general approach from this Government over the past few years has been somewhat welcoming at a time when Governments across Europe have been going sharply in the other way (especially the UK).

    It’s little wonder that the numbers have gone the way they have with that in mind



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,991 ✭✭✭downtheroad


    There won't be any modular homes arriving by truck in the middle of the night in ROG's constituency, you can be sure of that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭rowantree18


    .....and now we've recognised "the State of Palestine "...... we're such great people aren't we. Let's see how delighted we'll be when a 100 thousand of them descend on us requiring international protection. But sure, it's great to be best boy. And alienate the only democracy in the region. No gay pride marches in Gaza.

    Funny we never protest about Saudi, Iran, China etc...



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    Was the white paper shared in several different languages?

    Or was that just the text of the tweet?

    Does the white paper promise own door accommodation or just mention it?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Well it's argued that this is one of Putin's tactics to destabilise the west, so it is in the international playbook. I presume that Palestine will not be deemed a safe country and therefore there will be a legal route here as things stand.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,991 ✭✭✭downtheroad


    She is obese. No harm calling a spade a spade.

    It's the fear of being cancelled, by speaking the truth, that has contributed to this mess. Few politicians, and none in government, have the balls to say that we have too many asylum seekers on these shores and that we cannot accommodate them, never mind any more.

    But if they say that they'll be plastered across the front pages of the newspapers, the liberal left will go bananas on social media, radio presenters will call them out on air.

    Far easier to stay silent, or worse, say we can do more to help.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭gw80


    This is exactly what Israel is at, they are trying to cause such a humanitarian crisis for Palestinians that I would presume Europe will just say "**** it,we will take them"

    They are probably looking at Europe taking in millions of Ukrainians and saying to themselves they can take in a couple of million Palestinians also, and that would rid them of their problem.

    Since the med crisis in 2015 the Israelis or Israelis groups have been helping refugees traverse their way into Europe with information on where and how to get into Europe.



  • Registered Users Posts: 422 ✭✭john123470


    Ah, they are already more than well established here. Leo went out of his way to ensure that ..

    i had to do a double take when he lent out our sacred ground, Croke Park, (the Holy ground !) to Muslims to celebrate their Eid religious festival.

    Whatever we think of our Catholic heritage, our history, the fact that 14 men were shot dead in Croke Park during the War of Independence, I consider Croke park to have a sacred Irish - and specifically Irish - significance. Inviolable.

    It is a patch of ground that has written itself into the Irish soul. Any trespass thereon is an act of Blasphemy.

    Not on the part of the Muslims who used the park (they didn't break in there) but the Irish government (varadker, macentee, o gorman & Co) who basically gave them the keys to the city. It doesnt matter if it were lent out to Jehovahs witnesses, same thing - this is our sacred gound, our holy of holies. Inviolable.

    I always got the impression that leo varadker held the Irish electorate, whom he was elected to serve, with contempt - and barely concealed contempt at that. He seemed like a man hell bent on fcuking the place up. And didnt he do well. He got that fire up and blazing bfore he slunk off into the shadows, mission accomplished.

    I respect the various religions that live (peacefully) among us (if peaceful they can remain) but I find it very difficult to be silent on this matter. I really fear what is coming down the tracks. It does not augur well for the future.

    I feel totally betrayed, shot in the back by this "Irish" (i find it difficult to call them Irish) government.

    End of day, i guess they are just glorified county councillors to their EU bosses but, even allowing for this, surely they must see that what they are doing is unconscionable. In 4 short years, they have managed to kill / pawn off our Irish spirit, our soul.

    How do they live with themselves ?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,291 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Great to see we have our priorities straight.

    We might have teenagers dying of sepsis in our emergency wards, young couples living at home into their 40s because home-ownership is a pipe dream and scrotes roaming our streets without fear but by God we're top of the class with the woke issue-du-jour.

    Maybe we can encourage a few of those lovely Palestine lads to come over here too - it's not liked they've caused any trouble for neighboring countries who let them in in the past.

    RTE and the Irish Government currently circle-jerking themselves into a froth of righteousness



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Northernlily


    The crux is we are not doing basic background checks in a lot of cases and people are just let roam off into the country and that's that. It's inherently stupid beyond belief.

    It's an open goal for the like of ISIS if they were strategising that way and who have gone disconcertingly quiet.

    For me this is no longer a migration issue, it's a domestic security issue. That doesn't seem to be talked about at all!

    The fact is there are many people arriving on our shores who are so far from our values and beliefs as a country it is stupid.



  • Registered Users Posts: 54,131 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I think it's a matter of time until the Palestine people start asking for asylum in Ireland

    What a **** show



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    Loss of six million to the town, tourism going right down the shitter



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    Or the white paper that actually mentioned own door accommodation. White papers by departments of foreign governments are high on the reading lists in other countries I'm sure🙄🙄



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,028 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Did *you* read the white paper? Or did you just hear about it in media/social media?

    Thats how it goes for most of the world, asylum seekers included. The information gets fed to you via different channels, but the source (white paper & tweets) are the origin.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    public order unit in Ballyogan now and taxis, rather than coaches, sneaking asylum seekers in through a side entrance



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭tom23


    We’ll be probably told it’s fake news. This is reality of using hotels.

    News flash - Drogheada is down 6 million

    Left / Far Left response - build more houses.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    I am Irish - in Sydney. There is a Facebook group called "Irish Around Sydney", with over 120k members. Anything that's of relevance to Irish people in Sydney is posted on there. If the relevant "departments of foreign governments" - in this case the Australian one - published a "white paper" offering something to Irish people out here it would find it's way onto the group pretty quickly and would likely be highlighted on people's feeds when they enter the group.

    I have absolutely no doubt that this ability to share information is not limited to people from Ireland in Sydney and the contents of the tweets/white paper, along with the general vibe of Ireland being a place to go, wasn't a well kept secret since 2021.



  • Registered Users Posts: 511 ✭✭✭ECookie13


    Left / far left response is also: "Don't blame or get angry with da foreggners, it's not their fault".

    Like somehow they were magically transported to Ireland against their will.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,304 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Sure they're here already, or at least thats where they're claiming to be from now. Tug at the heart strings of do-gooders who believe every sob story going.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,304 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Another community that are going to resent the gardai and that FG and main stream parties will loose votes too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭Quags


    There is a good few up on the canal if you want an answer



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    I was just about to tag you. Is it true that NewtownMK are earmarked for modular homes?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,768 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    I have to say the reaction on this thread to the Palestinian recognition has been pretty ****.

    I thought we were more or less aligned that Illiegal migration was the major issue and not genuine asylum seekers(albeit with some cap or mechanism to ensure we are not overrun).

    The Gaza Strip is being bombed into oblivion, a person from Gaza would definitely be a person i’d class as a refugee and not take major issue with us giving them asylum.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Lotus Flower


    It is quite astounding that some people are really still trying to argue that it's unlikely a tweet from a blue tick (at the time) Irish government official could not have been noticed by that many people. But it's also quite funny that the same people who are trying to claim that it's a stretch that anyone would be interested in a white paper also claim that people come here because they've googled the GDP of Ireland. So in their eyes migrants are both savvy and also not capable of using the internet or understanding white papers



  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭bsloepro


    you’re dead right - they should

    Chancers ruin it for everyone



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭gw80




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,768 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    Please read my comment you have quoted in full for your answer.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭gw80


    But what number of people would you consider letting in,

    Putting a cap or restricting numbers is not what the government would do for want to look the the bestest country,as we have seen already with Ukrainians and look how that turned out.

    A trickle would always become a flood,

    Let the middle east look after its own its big and rich enough,

    And the same with Africa,its a big place,let them look after their own.



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