School kids in uniform buying booze.

"Im guessing the school or parents wouldn't be happy".

Probably not, but if IDs were checked, that's just their hard cheese.

20+ years ago I tried legally buying beers in my school uniform with my passport as ID.

The fecker in the off licence refused me and said it was their store policy to only accept garda age cards as id. I was raging. The age cards were only being brought in at that stage. Just went to another off licence near by though and got served no problem.

A nephew of mine is being roped in by a family friend who is a garda to do test purchases so watch out if you work selling alcohol!!

I'm guessing that is against school policy to bring alcohol onto the premises. If they bought it and brought it home then I still don't see where the issue is, 18 year old legally buys alcohol.

If they are over 18 it's none of anyone's business just like it is no ones business that you were in an off licence at lunch time.

Also if they are over 18 they are not kids, they are adults.

The Secondary schools around here get a half-day on Wednesdays, so maybe they were just having a midweek chill session. At their age, they wouldn't be getting hangovers in the morning, anyway. 😄

Or the extremely more likely story…they are on their way to an early afternoon, fancy dress party or hen 'night' on a Wednesday, dressed as schoolgirls. 😉

'When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.'

I was 18 for the whole of my 6th year in school so it's not beyond the realms of possibility that they were of age to purchase. There is nothing in law about what you can and can't wear to purchase alcohol. And while the school might not be thrilled about it not much they can do except say "please don't do that in uniform". I know there were some cases where schools tried to impose detention on students for things done outside school premises & hours while the child was in uniform (as they were representing the school by wearing it) but these all got successfully challenged as the school had no jurisdiction there.

often grabbed a few cans at lunchtime when i was that age,grand bit of a beer-buzz for the afternoon!

No alcohol while in school would be a good rule. I would also say that I'm glad to see alcohol becoming less "cool" among 18 to 20 types lately.

I remember buying alcohol in school uniform in the 90s but a lot more was acceptable then, and I wasn't 18 until just after finishing school. So I suppose I was 17, I imagine it was 6th year.

The bus driver gave me funny looks when I paid him the under 16 fare, which we always did, with a visible bag of cans with me.

30p was the under 16 fare back then I remember, 55p over 16s.

I believe a lot of shops won't sell cigarettes to school uniformed people now, even before it went to 18.

Where are they getting money to buy the booze? Odd jobs presumably, goodness knows though. I’m sure the school wouldn’t be happy and would have something to say. People starting young at the booze are most likely to become alcoholics, and a a nation we appear to have a grá for the notion of the auld harmless alcoholic, but in hard reality they are not nice people to be in the company of.

Young developing brains are very susceptible, and the more ready access a young person has to it the more likely they have a destroyed life ahead of them. I got a belt across the belly from an alcoholic I invited into my home, pretended he didn’t recall afterwards. Sober initially, didn’t take long to get through a bottle of Jamieson and for an abrupt change of personality, a total Jeckyll & Hyde scenario. This person in particular had early access to alcohol.

The odd over-indulgence as a young person can teach a valuable lesson, and part of growing up, but the constant frequent access is where it is damaging.

True… one can find oneself taking an AH thread actually seriously… need to lighten up meself 😁

Lots of people in school uniforms drinking in the pubs in castleknock over the last week. I am pretty sure the gov made it illegal to refuse to serve an 18 year old based on age a few years ago. Does look odd however.

Workplaces would also struggle to enforce that policy if the person is not on their premises or working at the time. Also major difference between a workplace and a school as you sign a contract with a workplace. Not so much with a school. The point is that the school has no jurisdiction to impose anything on students outside of school hours or school premises. I'm not saying drinking in the park in the uniform is a good look, just that the school can't actually do much about it.

Ah yes those few Barcardi Breezers I had as an 18/19 year old have really led me down the path to a homeless alcoholic……or not. Alcoholism is not caused by starting to drink young - problems with alcohol, maybe, but alcoholism is a lot more nuanced than that. As for the money - I had a job when I was 16 so I would have had my own money for buying whatever I wanted. And as I was an adult at 18, my parents let me use my money however I wanted. 18 isn't early access to alcohol - it's the legal age limit. If they were in primary school uniforms then that's a bigger issue on a few levels!

Most follow the "Challenge 25" rule but they had ID to show that they were 18. There is no 21's ID for people to show, passport or age card and they can't refuse you.

there is no legal precedent for any organisation attempting to stop people doing things that are legal and in good taste like shopping while wearing their uniform..

Say a school vice principal or whomever, saw a student Kate, buying a few Bacardi breezers in uniform, on a Friday after school. It’s May, She is 18 years old since February .

He reports back and they decide to discipline her…. To do so either way safely would require proof. Would the VP want to be taking a photo of the girl ? Because if I was a parent and I was cognisant that a school / state employee was in a public place, taking photographs of school kids ! Errr.

it wouldn’t be a conversation I’d be having with anyone at the school myself as a parent it would be via a solicitor and perhaps Gardai if appropriate.….

dunno. ‘Normal school hours ?’ If the student isn’t in school I’d interpret it as not being a normal school hour.

That rules seems just made up without practical thought being applied on behalf of the management of the school. Doesn’t make much tangible sense.

It might not have been during normal school hours though. My school had a half day on a Wednesday so lunchtime on Wednesday was outside of normal school hours. A lot of schools had similar.

yes the Transition Year pushes the age at LC back. No TY available for me in 1978, would have loved it. Did my LC not long turned 17, and if early school had pushed me ahead the way they wanted to I would have been not long turned 16 leaving school. I was dreadfully immature and unfocussed.

No weirder than when it was discussed 10 years ago. And it is a topic for discussion on forums in different countries. Australia seems to have a widespread policy among shops not to sell alcohol to anyone in school uniform. I saw it in operation in Tesco yesterday.

https://www.danmurphys.com.au/help/rsa-commitment-content

…so we decide what age such drugs can be sold, but now they must or must not wear certain types of clothing!

…say wha!

As an aside , while not alcohol related , while mitching school and playing snooker , in a sem uniform they were alot stricter than if you were from the tech

I would hope the store checks their IDs, but other than that I'm not sure what you would like to happen?

If they're 18 they can do as they please, what their parents or the school think doesn't invalidate their ID. They're free to cut allowance, issue suspensions or whatever they want but they don't override the law, school rules have no power over the shop keeper.

Whilst you are wearing clothing that identifies you as working for a particular company, that company has a great deal of say over what you can and can't do.

And when children are enrolled into a school, their parents do indeed sign up to a contract to uphold the school rules.

Schools don't give a flying fúck about things like this, they have enough to be worrying about.

Basically if it isn't happening on school grounds or when their insurance is obliged to cover it, they don't want to know.