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Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

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    #22232
    Northernlily
    Registered Users Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Northernlily


    Who has dispatched the force out to Ballyogan in such numbers.

    I must say the determination of the Government to plough on with an unpopular policy stoking tensions in communities with no consultation is a very very dangerous tactic from them. They will really awaken a sleeping bear if they push it too far.

    There are a lot of good people in the Guards but it's also a magnet for a lot of power tripping oafs with little between the ears. That Guard was utterly stupid not to realise he was probably being filmed.



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    #22233
    paddyisreal
    Registered Users Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122172099#Comment_122172099

    The so called right wing vote will get at least 4 of the European seats . That's 25;percent of the vote , I would call that a major shift of opinion in the country. None of them would of had a chance if getting elected in the last election. Your kidding yourself if you think that's not a kick up the arse



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    #22234
    Real Donald Trump
    Registered Users Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122172184#Comment_122172184

    Indeed, will happen imo, Gov have ignored the people far too long.



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    #22235
    Gen.Zhukov
    Registered Users Posts: 1,939 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    It's okay - All will be explained tomorrow night on RTE's Prime Time when they delve into the incident and report on just how this Govt took their lead from the Hong Kong protesters suppression four years ago

    RTE are renowned for their tenacity in holding this government to account



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    #22236
    prunudo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,304 ✭✭✭prunudo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122172182#Comment_122172182

    ain't that the truth, and you and I need to jump through hoops to widen a driveway or convert the attic.



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    #22237
    prunudo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,304 ✭✭✭prunudo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122172202#Comment_122172202

    its coming directly from O'Gorman, these centres must go ahead and any protests pushed aside.



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    #22238
    aziz
    Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭aziz


    put it this way,if I were a guard and was ordered to do that kind of crap against Irish

    People,I would be tendering my resignation toot sweet



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    #22239
    Northernlily
    Registered Users Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Northernlily


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122172226#Comment_122172226

    I can honestly see the whole country kicking off at this. It's a deeply unpopular shady tactic.

    TBH I think the Guards will down tools at some point and stop doing this. They are doing it for a Goverment who have treated them like shite.

    A penny for the real thoughts of the Guards there tonight.



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    #22240
    Jeff2
    Registered Users Posts: 7,064 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    They want to put tents up in Thornton Hall that they bought for €50 million to build a now jail as there not enough space and still people with 100 plus convictions going free as prisons are full.

    And is now it s worth a fraction it what they paid. Now value less than 3 million.

    Let criminals out to save money but house people from abroad.

    They really think we have endless money.



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    #22241
    Panthro
    Registered Users Posts: 14,788 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    Countries fuct and a government isn't listening to its people.

    Mass marches on the Dail is the only way forward. Or go full European and dump lorry loads of shyte on the government doorstep. Bring Dublin to an absolute stand still.

    Shame the cnuts into listening to its people.



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    #22242
    kabakuyu
    Registered Users Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Sad to see a garda assaulting an old man in this country, i thought we were better than that,I hope Gsoc investigate the incident.AGS will be rapidly losing public support if they continue with his behaviour.



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    #22243
    Strazdas
    Registered Users Posts: 18,465 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122172209#Comment_122172209

    Which four 'right wing' candidates are you expecting to be MEPs? And even if four were elected, it would hardly be some political earthquake or revolution - Europe has always seen a fair number of oddballs and dissidents get elected (Flanagan, Daly, Wallace etc).



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    #22244
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users Posts: 2,634 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122162059#Comment_122162059

    They tell people how to behave in Norway. They send male and female Muslims to education classes where they're thought how to respect women. There's a reason they had to resort to this in one of the world's most liberal countries. We'll find out the hard way.



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    #22245
    Real Donald Trump
    Registered Users Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122172258#Comment_122172258

    Another march come bank holiday I reckon. Need big numbers



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    #22246
    B2021M
    Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭B2021M


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122172099#Comment_122172099

    Have you not spent the last few days saying you didn't anticipate the Ukrainian war lasting more than six months ? Why didn't you?

    But here you are making more predictions.



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    #22247
    Real Donald Trump
    Registered Users Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122172274#Comment_122172274

    Imagine needing classes to teach them how to respect women? What a joke!



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    #22248
    REDBULL68
    Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭REDBULL68


    Various parts of the country are heating up ,and I'm not talking about the weather, the government are now invisible in this I.e we invited a spokesperson on but no one was available, Agree with the poster about the guards ,I'm sure their well pissed off as well.



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    #22249
    Strazdas
    Registered Users Posts: 18,465 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122172284#Comment_122172284

    I said 'most people' didn't anticipate a Russo-Ukrainian war that would last 3-4 years or longer. Wars that are stalemates and with a battle front that hardly moves for years are usually very hard to predict in advance.



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    #22250
    B2021M
    Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭B2021M


    Well you always agree with what you say is 'most people'. And it's less than two and a half years so are you going for a prediction of 3 or 4 now?

    Plus a government should plan better than what 'most people' think



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    #22251
    DebDynamite
    Registered Users Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    Agree with the posters here… Usually during the summer there’s a big mass brawl of some type somewhere when you have the combination of drink & sun, and boredom of youths not being in school/college… Now with these added frustrations, I really can see it all kicking off somewhere some night during the summer



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    #22252
    Strazdas
    Registered Users Posts: 18,465 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122172311#Comment_122172311

    Never mind what I'm predicting - I keep seeing predictions about how some sort of 'political earthquake' involving anti-immigration candidates is going to happen in the Irish European and local elections in June. I've seen this stated repeatedly here with the greatest of confidence for the last few months (this despite the fact that there is no sign in polls that the mainstream parties in the Dáil are losing support….the only one that appears to have gone into something of a slump is Sinn Fein).



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    #22253
    Real Donald Trump
    Registered Users Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122172351#Comment_122172351

    Ind have jumped big time in the polls



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    #22254
    Jeff2
    Registered Users Posts: 7,064 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    No everyone can go to a march but they have a vote.

    Look at the last referendum where the government and opposition were so sure of themselves and then did a uturn.



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    #22255
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users Posts: 16,326 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122172267#Comment_122172267

    I'm wondering this too. The only seriously right-wing contender likely to take a seat that I can see is Boylan. Two others who have made critical noises about immigration policy - Mcnamara and Toibin - have a very good and decent chance respectively, but neither would describe themselves as right wing, and I dount either goes near far enough for the blowhards on this thread.



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    #22256
    whatever.
    Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭whatever.


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122149057#Comment_122149057

    You're bordering on contempt, it has been explained to you countless times but I shall use your own words as vector

    "just because Irish migrants aren't asylum seekers or illegal migrants"

    Conflating theses separate categories as one is conflating consensual with non-consensual

    Any effect that holds plurality between the categories is irrelevant only the non-consensual nature and its effects

    There are specific guidelines in relation to this, I shall not quote from Irish case law as that would be disrespectful but include a citation that is in the public domain

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4n1l3n8zg1o

    Post edited by whatever. on


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    #22257
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users Posts: 2,634 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122172292#Comment_122172292

    Many of the women in the documentary said they'd never be able to live freely and equally because they've known the opposite since a child. But they said they'd at least try and steer their daughters down the right path. It definitely helps.

    Been to a few beaches recently and there's a lot of Somalians. The dad and son's go in for a swim but the daughters and wife(s) are completely covered and at best get to dip their ankles in. Disgusting culture and shouldn't be encouraged here.



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    #22258
    whatever.
    Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭whatever.


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122172374#Comment_122172374

    I am not specifically Mr Oaf but would like to point out that

    Right / Left are economic positions, by definition right wing is pro (open, low or no regulation →immigration and left wing is the opposite

    Authoritarian / Libertarian are social positions

    The politicians making statements lack the intellect to understand the difference, it does a disservice to us all

    Those critical of the current policy would be correctly described socially and economically as the centre ground

    Those supporting the current 'policy' would be correctly described as right wing neo-liberals



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    #22259
    paddyisreal
    Registered Users Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122172267#Comment_122172267

    McNamara, Tobin, mullooly,boylan all have a major chance. I reckon a load running on anti immigration platform will get elected in the local elections also. Let's just see but if 25 percent of the population is voting that way that is a seismic shift no matter what way you dress it up.



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    #22260
    MegamanBoo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122172103#Comment_122172103

    It's sad to be waking up to further reports of this kind of aggression.

    The Gardai have a lot to be putting up with.

    Fair play to them for the restraint shown with that abuse hurled at them, all with numerous 'citizen journalists' holding phones.



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    #22261
    MegamanBoo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    Looks very much like there'll be no deportations to Rwanda after all.

    It seems to be dependent now on a Tory election win, which seems highly unlikely.

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/rishi-sunak-admits-no-rwanda-071643958.html



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