All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship 2024 (Munster And Leinster Championships,Liam McCarthy Cup)

The extra steps was definately something that Kilkenny took full advantage of more than most. I give you Colin 10 Step Fennelly . But it's a joke now how endemic it is.

In fairness to Tipperary amd Kilkenny they seem to be the least likely to throw the ball and I agree Luke Meade threw the ball twice in the '1/2' with Connolly

Some very weird posters obsessed with tipperary on this site. Tipp thread is mostly clare limerick posters at this stage.

Probably just observing 'chickens coming home to roost'.

I certainly was and even heard a few mutterings of 'Tip, Tip, Tip', which unsurprisingly fizzled out quickly. Whether we win regularly or not is relatively unimportant to Clare like most counties. We continue to support our team regardless as Cork did last Sunday and Offaly tonight. Whereas the Tipperary support has proven incredibly fragile. That's an opinion shared by most hurling supporters including Tipperary supporters that I have spoken to.

No it’s just score difference between them in the matches against each other, not wins, losses and draws

Could the steps rule not be changed to seconds or something? There are obviously going to be cons but it might be easier for refs to enforce. The throwing of the ball is fairly out of control to be fair. Every team is at it.

A little perspective perhaps is needed on attendances of some counties aside from Tipp.

So far in Leinster hurling championship there has been attendances of approx

1 Galway v Kilkenny 9,000 (a paltry crowd for Leinsters two heavy hitters)

2 Wexford v Dublin 9,000

3 Dublin v Kilkenny 8,500

I don't know crowd for Carlow v Kilkenny but on the highlights it looked very small.

Also where were the Offaly fans in last years McDonagh Cup final? Looked a small crowd. And at the hammering by Tipp last year in preliminary quarter final it looked a small Offaly crowd on tv. Offaly are a county starved of success and the Offaly public have got behind this current team led by Screeney since the minor final v Tipp couple years ago and that years Leinster final. They now have a team they can be proud of and looked like every man, woman and child from Offaly was at last nights game. But that is most certainly not the norm.

Tipp crowd was down last week and against Limerick but i think the criticism has gone a little over the top at this stage.

True, most tipp supporters on premierview. V Active website with good contributions from other counties too.

Don't let facts ruin the narrative. Again 16k fans between cork clare limerick and Wexford in 2016 qualifiers. Not one limerick or clare poster criticising tipp have explained the poor attendance at that game. Many others games I can quote too but these posters don't deal with the facts. Hypocrisy is laughable. Tipp support was poor this year but all counties have down years when team going so bad. Its not unique to tipp as people are trying to make out.

The master fixture list for 2024 specifies that Leinster is decided by rule 5 c but that Munster is using a different system as allowed under rule 5.

5 c is the one that discounts games against the weaker teams which is why Leinster is using it

The steps rule is okay the way it is as it's easy to see/count if the rule is being broken or not. The 'advantage' that refs apply to how many steps a player may take if being fouled is a lot greyer and probably needs clarification alright.

A rule change is absolutely required for hand passing though at this stage as it is almost impossible to judge if there is separation between ball and hand with the current speed of the game. Quite simply change the rule so that the ball has to be played with the hurl, or the other hand (provided the hurl is not dropped).

I am seeing it being coached to kids now where hand passing (throwing) is preferred over stick passing for working the ball up the field and it's so disheartening to see. Hurling is slowly dying... Death by a thousand throws!

Do 'Antrim' not deserve credit for making a championship interesting? Munster hurling and Munster rugby people would drive ye bananas with such pointless snobbery 😂