Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

Yeah, whatever mate. You're grand.

What is this link that doesn't work and what country does it refer to ?

Again you are talking BS here and from a position that you don't seem to comprehend yourself .

Firstly I spoke plainly about legislation here ( in Ireland) not inscience actually , you use the word incorrectly ...which is what people usually do on a discussion thread , instead of speaking like a chatgpt bot and then picking the wrong country's legislation ! 😊

Augme has highlighted the correct legislation above .Irish legislation .

Secondly I apologise for calling you 'hun ' ...it was to soften the comment and not intended to make out you actually were a hun .

But now your touchiness on the subject has highlighted the issue along with the pretty obvious now , lack of knowledge about our specific Irish legislation etc

Where are you posting from....Russia , America , UK ?

fair point

The reason these results are not relatable has been discussed before .

Sweden measures it's rape statistics differently including allegations , iirc , and even their own studies state that people tend to report more incidents from people considered strangers than those they know which they say accounts for the higher numbers reported of ' foreigners ' .

Also the post does not have any link to verify your information .

The one "various statistics " reveals that no link exists .

This is anti Islamist propaganda , no less .

You in fact are posting unverifiable anti Islamist /Muslim propaganda so that cognitive bias is yours .

If a poster makes claims especially about statistics , they need to link it to a verifiable source that is not biased ,eg in this case not from a far right group publication . And preferably a link that exists .

Also the poster must have read that link themselves and be prepared to back it up .

Otherwise it's just a crock of sxxx , and people are lapping this up here ..

Percentages are what matter. And if you bring in hundreds of thousands from a culture that hates women the statistics will balloon.

Probably based in America. Identity politics are not welcome in Ireland. We will use statistics and won't let the crazy left ruin this country.

Did you read them?

I don't have much time today but the second study, while not mentioning political affiliation specifically, links anti-immigration prejudice to negative personality traits.

Narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy correlated with immigrant threat perceptions and increased prejudice

Couldn't be to do with our taxes funding these chancers straight into the country with €400k modular housing while the rest of us save for mortgages no?

It's our bad personality traits. Got it 🤣

Well 'if it quacks like a duck'?

Actually, I don't believe that anti-immigration views for the most part are caused by maladaptive personalities.

I'm just pointing out the silliness of people in the anti-immigration movement tarring everyone with the same brush.

Good god. Pot and kettle come to mind. From day one,.you have labeled anyone that protested what was happening to their area and to their taxes as racists. The only group not racist was of course the residents of the only area that polled in the last referendum the compete opposite to the rest of the country, where the wealthy live.

Time and time again, you and your cohort of comrades have belittled and ignored any argument that anyone has put forward once it goes against your narrative. Crime stats, crime reports, personal testimony, all ignored.

What would you suggest?

Writing a strongly worded letter?

The people who stand up and defend their communities as best they can against a tyrannical state and a police force who have become the oppressive one they replaced, will be lauded as far seeing heroes in the fullness of time when things get worse.

The collaborators (unfortunately) probably won't face the just fate of collaborators since the dawn of time though. They'll slink off into the night, get an EU job or on the board of a multinational, some will even change their username again, and complain about the country they cheerlead the destruction of.

I don't have it in for them. It's not my fault Irish men commit sexual assualts more than foreigners.

Page 26 and page 27. During a 12 month period 79% of committals for sexual offences where Irish nations and 94% were white.

Yep, in some respects we begin to resemble a police state. When ordinary people are afraid to protest on local developments, there is something wrong.. Badly wrong.

Collaborators ?! Lol 🤣

Word taken from those collaborating with a nazi regime in WW2 ..don't think your average person who disagrees with anti immigration rallies and protests can reasonably be associated with people secretly supporting a nazi regime , now can they ?

Unless you have more information than I have and are afraid to say ?

And " a tyrannical state " .? .come on ;)

If that were true , all those on here would be afraid to post for fear the Secret Police would track them down and have them locked up !

Don't think a lot of these so called 'paaatriots ' on those protests could stand up to defend their own families if they were asked to , never mind their communities , many of whom are not happy to be associated with them .

As regards families though , notice many of the most active campaigners/ citizen journalists are not people with families , other halves, children .In fact nothing to defend or look out for apart from themselves and their video blogs .

All they are defending is their perceived "right " to shout and hurl abuse and to insult people .

As for a" strongly worded letter " , when many of the eejits screeching and videoing themselves are forgotten , that letter is still there for posterity to be referred to ..so don't underestimate it .

But really :) discussing posters as collaborators 'changing their username .' .

Have the courage of your convictions there, packrat , and stop hiding behind the keyboard ...Who are you referring to ?

Otherwise you cannot accuse others of any cowardly behaviour .

"Only people who cannot see beyond their nose or very immature people would consider voting in a GE which will affect their lives for the next 4/5 years without considering all the issues at stake"

Naw, totally disagree here. the incumbents have warped the notion of any semblance of nationhood and practically shredded the social contract. Those purported to be waiting in the wings to take power would make the current crowd in power look like mere alter boys.

I'm cashing out, enough of the current BS. I'd vote actual nazis in at this stage, I don't give two continental hoots for it. They literally cannot be any worse. Five years ago I'd punch myself in the face for contemplating it, but here we are. To those with all those warm fuzzy feelings of #IrelandForAll and other such claptrap, well done. Take a bow, you've created this through gross incompetence and a shocking false sense of moral superiority.

The amazing fall from grace of the Irish Catholic Church should have served as a warning, not a manual. At least the Catholic Church lasted a few hundred years, liberal-progressive Ireland is barely a decade old and look at how it has already turned to crap. Slow clap for yeas.

Its really not. Did you read the housing commission report?

People who label others that vote based on this issue "stupid", to be kind, lack wisdom, perspective and foresight."

So that does not apply to me .

If that is what their decision process brings them to , then it is not stupid .

Because as I said in my post they are considering the issues . Not just one .

One issue voting only works for very localised issues like Mica for instance .

One issue voting on a national issue got us the likes of Clare Daly, Mick Wallace et al .

And btw I do not class McNamara in that group of one issue voters as you suggest . He is very smart and straight and will do well in Europe .

Oh I could absolutely debate it in two ways; one being simple economics which I'm not bothered to waste time with (given it's yourself), and the other I'd receive a warning for anecdotal evidence on the housing of IPAs.

So you can go annoy someone else for tonight thank you 👋

"Are you talking to me ? Are you ..talking ..to ..me ?! "

Why are you quoting me and blaming me for the situation in the country?

I get it you are angry but you could at least attempt to be reasonable..

Boards and its posters do not influence politics or decisions made by governments.

It is merely a discussion forum .

I am hoping you were only referring to my post and not blaming me for the state of the nation .

So you don't agree about people voting for single issue candidates , and as I have pointed out I do not agree with single issue voting except on local issues.

We will agree then to disagree, but don't blame me or others for having our opinions and expressing them on a discussion forum .

So you cannot debate anything to do with the independent housing commission.

According to me?

Nope. According to the laws of the land, An Garda Siochana can only do what they are entitled to do, by law. Do you think gardai should be able to break the law?