€50 notes being refused

nah they just don't want to carry enough change in the tills.

wouldn't take long for a few 50s to empty it.

The non bank located ATMs are a haven for distribution of forged notes by organised crime, has been for years

How do you make that out?

Maybe try some new ATM's?

A few weeks back I had €400 in €50 notes freshly withdrawn out of an ATM machine, of the 8 notes I couldn't get a single note to match up with another in terms of where the watermark was placed, where the metal stripe was positioned, where the printing had started and ended/paused on the paper. All had the fancy ink green colour tech for the amount and proper holographic transparent stripe. I am of the opinion something very dodgy is going on with the €50 phyical notes, I know they are printed by different central banks througout Europe but it's very odd to see such differences in them, has the note being compromised?

Assuming for a second that what you're saying is true (it isn't), what does that mean? That the workers in Centra and Mace and Circle K who are doing the filling are being coerced into filling them with dodgy notes by the Kinahans or whatever? Multiple people, across many varied locations, with God knows how may points of failure?

Really?

Is that more believable than a made-up urban legend posted on Boards without a single shred of evidence to back it up?

no 50 euro notes now.. get you used to that… them calling the shots then in a few years, no cash full stop.

They will blame the prevalence of forged every kind of note. High costs of security, cash processing etc…

Look at Costa’s profits, not exactly struggling. A seriously healthy multimillion euro profit last year.

This is how it starts….

More likely that forged €50 notes are used to buy a low value item and the customer is given legit notes in their change.

The shop assistant then unknowingly fills the ATM with a mixture of genuine and forged notes. As mentioned before it's the shop that fills these, not banks.

Who fills the ATMs in shops then?

Some retail ATMs are indeed filled by shop staff. Or certainly used to be, anyway.

It doesn't work very well that way ;-)

I spent some time testing note readers for retail project. I was handling hundreds of notes a day then changing them out for a new lot of notes. I also spent some time trying to obtain fakes for testing - not legal but how do you test otherwise? Found motorway type service stations and large garages the best place and many at the time had them pinned up in the office as a warning to others. So I've seen a good few fakes.

You'd be excused missing a good fake €50 in a batch of used notes, if you were in a hurry counting them, but anyone should be able to spot even a really good fake if they handle a single note. I'd go as far as to say anyone who can't spot a forgery should be sacked.

I also discussed with people who had the fakes how they had been passed. Clueless staff was one answer but the biggest single reason was hard pressed staff who were in a hurry to process a transaction. The worst fake I ever saw was a €5 printed on a school copier and past during school lunch hour when the shop had a queue of kids out the door. That €5 was so bad you only had to look at it to see it wasn't real but pick your moment and you can get away with almost anything. Another company I know that got caught with a few fake €50's who got them in with a large amount of €50's when someone paid cash for a large ticket item. Individually you could see they were wronguns but if you only saw half when counting them then most people would have missed it.

I'm not saying there aren't some good fake €50's out there but really guys I would expect anyone here to spot them. In fact if you were blind you'd probably know they weren't right as the feel of the paper quality of a fake is often "wrong".

A UV light in the till draw imo is the simplest answer. You only need see how a real note looks under UV a few times to spot a fake.

It's mad that there's so many if they're easily spotted and the ATMs reject them.

You'd want a brass neck to knowingly try to spend one, I'd look very suspicious and shifty.

I deal with €50 notes on a daily basis. Haven't seen a dodgy one in over 20 years