School kids in uniform buying booze.

"The possession or consumption of alcohol in school, in school uniform or on school related activities in
this country and abroad is strictly forbidden, regardless of the student’s age. Nor may any student enter a
licensed premises, buy or consume alcohol whilst in school uniform or otherwise clearly identified as a
student of the school. Any breach of this rule will be considered a serious disciplinary matter and will
automatically incur a minimum of three days’ suspension. Repeat offending will be considered as worthy
of expulsion."

They actually don’t, unless you are breaking the law or bringing their business into disrepute.

wearing a company’s uniform does not give them any power over you. People are free to act as they like within the law.

A person or company cannot just decide they have power over you. Ludicrous notion. If somebody agrees to behave a certain way in uniform, that’s a different matter. But it’s entirely based on a legal agreement not putting on a uniform.

Assuming that every single company that has a uniform has contractual terms like that, and thus putting on any uniform is what gives them power is likely your mistake.

I guess it will totally blow your mind to know that in Ireland, people working as public servants are not allowed to be involved with political parties at all. Irresepctive of whether their public-service job is public-facing.

What would that blow my mind? It's extremely logical and obvious.
The fact you think that being "not being public facing" was somehow relevant suggest you don't understand why its in place.
Being public facing has nothing to do with it.

Similarly members of the army aren't allowed to be involved with a range of activities, in our out of uniform - and there are MPs who actively look for people breaking the rules.

The army? Again that should be obvious. It's not a private company, people who enlist do so under specific terms.

Next you'll point out that astronauts on the ISS still have to follow certain rules on their days off. Shockingly a spin to the pub is not allowed.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank anyone here who was buying drink for young lads in O'Briens in Bray in the early 00s. Yez were sound, not sure if I'd do it myself, tbh.

I am entitled to post anything which is not forbidden by the rules of Boards. What would stand up in a court of law would need to be tested in a court of law, not an internet forum.

Whatever about legalities it's not a great look for an off licence to have a bunch of kids in school uniform buying drinks.

You can and we are entitled so say that your post is nonsense, you haven't advised where its from so you could of just made it up yourself.

I saw it in operation in a local Tesco this week. Two males in school uniform arrived at the checkout behind me, both carrying boxes of beers. The checkout person told them they could not be served in uniform, regardless of age. There were a few schoolgirls waiting at the other side of the checkout, maybe part of their entourage.

Good luck to any parent taking Tesco to court.

They're 18 ffs

They have right of refusal like any licensed premises, as long as it's not on one of the specific legally protected grounds. Same as a nightclub saying "smart dress only" or whatever.

You don't get this level of pontification from fast food outlets or sweet shops.

Sometimes you do.

I'm aware of some that refuse to serve children at all during school hours.

And others that have "no more than 2 children in the shop at a time" rules.

They are not kids (legally)

Most in final year are 18+

We used to have to wait an hour or so after school for the bus home.

There was a pub 2/3 minutes walk down from the school. After school, we'd pop down to the pub, a few games of darts/pool, try our hand at the Who Wants To Be A Millionaire game, the odd bottle of coke or lucozade, the lads that smoked stocking up. On the rare occasion of a quiet Friday, the publican would serve us a pint. Bear in mind we were all 16/17 at the time so he shouldn't, but on the quieter Fridays once every 5/6 weeks we'd have one and one only and then back up and get the bus home.

Our principal saw us one time and complained, but the bar owner told him we were only playing darts/pool. The principal came to us over it, and one of the lads had the good sense to ask the principal could the school provide after school activities or an earlier bus instead. The principal then passed a rule in the school that students were not allowed to enter any licenced premises in school uniform. So we used to leave our school jumper and school ties in our school bags our pants/shirts could be bought anywhere.

In the end the principal gave up bothering.

No strictly legal from the pub owner, but one pint was your limit and it was once every 5/6 weeks, and for the most part it was just a few games pool and darts.

Great times.

I'm aware of some that refuse to serve children at all during school hours.

You are aware of shops and restaurants refusing to serve people based on the fact they are wearing their school uniform?

On what grounds would that be?

Well no, they don't have to provide a reason.

But there must be a reason, so what is it?

Course the right to refuse to sell to someone exists but that's up to the shop, not the school.

Usually the no more than x in the shop at a time is because they find it hard to deal with a massive influx of them at lunch time. My local shop has this as about 60 kids each lunch arrive down to get stuff. They wouldn't be able to reasonably manage the shop if they all piled in.

I've never been in a shop that refused to serve children during school hours. Especially if they're near the school as they would lose a large core business segment & that's just not great stratigic planning.

Not to court but they could challenge on them. Tesco sign up to the responsible resellers agreement around alchol (like most supermarkets). I had it with a Supervalu where they refused my ID (which was in date & valid) to purchase a bottle of wine & said they would only accept a passport. I ended up emailing their head office asking where on their policies or under the responsible retailers association guidelines did it say that a passport was the only acceptable ID. They quoted it & then I sent them a screenshot of the section they referenced which showed that passports were just one of the listed acceptable ID's but so was the one I offered. They apologised & said I should have been served.

So yeah while you might not be bringing them to court, you could easily challenge it with them and ask to see the policy whereby they will not sell to those in school uniforms. But they bank on teenagers not being willing to challenge them on this.

They did challenge it.

To many at a casual glance school uniform=kid.

Could just as easy be a bottle of wine or spirits.

Reputational damage to shopkeeper

Reputational damage to shopkeeper

From Helen who is hyper emotional and lacks the ability of critical thought?

I don't know about you but if I saw someone in a uniform getting carded and then served my automatic assumption is they are legally entitled to buy alcohol.

Think about it, what sort of mis placed confidence would an underage person have rocking up to an off licence in their school uniform?

Exactly.

If you saw them producing id and being served of course you would know they are over 18.

On the other hand if you passed them coming out of the shop you might suspect otherwise.

Tesco "Think 25 Policy" currently accepts passport or driving licence.

https://www.tesco.com/help/pages/in-store-faqs/information-about-our-stores/age-restricted-items

If these young adults had a bit of gumption, they would refuse to wear a uniform.

We are a nation of curtin twitchers, always bothered about somebody else is doing.

IDs were checked so it was adults buying booze which is no big deal.

What exactly do you think I've forgotten ?