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  • Subscribers Posts: 16,592 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Not really, we requested deeds when we put up for sale, 8 weeks later sale agreed we had to chase deeds for another two weeks. Getting redemption figures is v difficult also. We couldn’t have done any more to try to be ready. Then closing was delayed by a full 2 weeks due to banks again having issues releasing funds to buyers. Banks are a major obstacle to every aspect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭FionnK86




  • Subscribers Posts: 16,592 ✭✭✭✭copacetic




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Has been absolutely nothing Around us (Tipperary) this year, could count on the one hand the amount of places realistically within our budget.
    2024 has been worse than any of the past few year’s.

    Real bottom of the barrel stuff coming available that are grossly overpriced and/or need 10s of thousands to bring them upto decent standard.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    Yep I can agree. It is shocking what is out there for what price!

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 821 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    Have been looking in NE (Meath, Louth, Cavan and W/Meath)and have noticed that since May 2023 (WHEN GRANT CAME IN) asking prices went up by 70,000 and quality went down AND anything that goes sale agreed is back on the market within 3 months

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



  • Registered Users Posts: 211 ✭✭Hontou


    I think back on the market within 3 months of sale agreed is a sign that the sale did not go through rather than the buyer reselling. From sale agreed to contracts signed has always taken between 3 and 10 months for me (based on 8 property purchases and sales of second hand properties). There has always been some sort of delay between deeds, banks, a chain, planning or right of way issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 821 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    Yes, agree/ The ones that I have seen have been way overpriced and have issues including planning and boundry and a good few have been sold as qualifying for grant but have not been vacant for 2 years (which authorities can easily check by electricity usage). For some reason I am finding this alot with estate agents and auctioneers in NE region

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



  • Registered Users Posts: 211 ✭✭Hontou


    Total nightmare and waste of professional time for estate agents if it does happen. They only make money if the sale goes through. I often think a property on the market a long time or one that comes back onto the market in a short time has some issue with title or planning unless its simply overpriced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    Anecdotal I know, but the experience we had after managing to close on our first house last year was 2 houses fall through after sale agreed because of planning/access issues and then we had another house take 9 months getting contracts to us before we called it quits.

    Is that law coming in yet for getting the house planning in order before you can put the house on the market? Because it's scandalous what they can get away with putting up for sale now "in case it's a cash buyer" because a mortgage provider would be more thorough



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  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭ViperMAN


    Hi everyone,

    I just went sale agreed on a house. I really like the house, and thought I wouldn't actually land it … now I am questioning why it was so easy, if there is something wrong with it. I am putting every cent I have into the property so I guess I am feeling a bit vulnerable. I have a few questions:

    • I need to pay a deposit - which is refundable. Can I do another viewing with my partner/family before putting in the deposit?
    • If I decide to pull out after putting through the deposit, can I do need proof that something is actually wrong (engineers report, etc) - or can I say its not for me?
    • Part of the reason for me buying this is because there is plenty room at the back and sides for an extension. I have checked the regulations around adding an extension without planning (<40msq, more than 1msq from boundary, not taller than existing house, cant reduce existing open space by less than 25msq). I wouldn't buy the house if this couldn't be added - is there anything else I should watch out for?
    • I would love to meet the neighbour to see what they are like and there won't be any issues. There is hedging between the houses and I also want to understand who does what with it. Have people on here popped over to the neighbours when sale agreed to see what they are like?
    • Is there anything else I should be checking in the house before going all in? Sorry, I am just a bit nervous now that I have gone this far!

    Thanks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,524 ✭✭✭tigger123


    I would imagine you can do another viewing, no problem at all.

    You can put the deposit down and change your mind 100 per cent, and get it back. You may find however that the next time you offer with that EA, they'll be less likely to deal with you.

    At this time of year, you would generally find people out and about in the evenings. I used to drive/cycle/walk around the area and just start chatting to people I meet to find out what the local vibe is.

    Re the neighbours, you could definitely call in, introduce yourself, and have a query about something else totally unrelated in the area (sports clubs, public transport, etc). You'll get a sense of things quick enough.

    You may want to check planning applications with local authorities around the area; also check the flood maps, again from the local authorities. They will tell you if the area is prone to flooding.

    Also, check the street name on google with the word 'court'; this could let you know about any difficulties locally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭SharkMX


    We were looking at a house and were about to bid on it and we said we would do a walk by the day before.

    An old man was standing at the gate of the house next door. He saw us looking at the house and he said are you thinking of buying it. We said yes and started chatting to him.

    We asked him if the house was in good condition inside and he said "Its fine. You can change anything you dont like in it, but you cant change those cnts living in the house attached to it. They are the reason <Owners name> is moving out, They have their heart broken the last few years. The council wont do anything either.".

    We never looked at that house again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    ^ This above is why its def worth having chats with neighbours if you can.

    House we ended up buying was definitely influenced by one of the nicest families I've ever met being next door. Been a joy to have as neighbours since we moved in



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Sure I have a neighbor on one side, he's a pig, hasn't cut the grass in years, growing through my fence, total lazy prick. House privately owned.

    I'm in a small old council estate, most the houses are bought up years and gone through different owners.

    Neighbour on other side is a council tenant, the nicest most considerate woman I have ever met. Her house is immaculate inside and out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭SharkMX


    Given the choice id prefer to have 2 good neighbors either side of me than one potential disaster artist, especially the one attached to a semi - d, so we just bailed and left it to whoever was willing to take the chance.



  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭ViperMAN


    Thanks - good tips here! Googling 'court' didn't come back with anything so next I will try to chat with the neighbours.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,511 ✭✭✭VW 1


    Id be hesitant to let the opinion of neighbours have too much weight in the decision to buy the house or not buy it. Unless they reveal real anti social behaviour problems etc (which is usually something you could see from visiting the area on a couple of occasions) you could just get a neighbour with an issue putting you off a house.

    We bought a house with a "troublesome family" next door without speaking to neighbours but they were nothing but polite and nice to us for the 7 years we lived beside them. They'd had a troublesome kid who'd grown up and moved out before we moved in and was a pain to deal with when they visited occasionally, but the neighbours around would have advised against buying the house on the basis of that family in the adjoining house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,217 ✭✭✭Roberto_gas


    yes take any info u get but dont take a decision based on what they say.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭SharkMX


    We were running all sorts of scenarios through our heads. Wondering did they man have a grudge. Was he telling the truth. We were only hearing from one neighbor. We only heard one side of the story.

    After weighing it all up though we decided that there is more of a chance of something being off on one side or the other here and we were just better off out of it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 258 ✭✭gaming_needs90


    Don't know if anyone else has noticed this but supply has definitely popped upwards in the last two weeks. Its like sellers waited until Mid may and now they are all coming at once onto Daft.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Maybe families looking to move while the children are off for the summer?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,118 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    I'm not sure of your what locations you're looking in, but I have noticed that myself.



  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭theboringfox


    Houses look better in the summer weather. This should start to be the build up of supply then will collapse from September on again. Good to hear its improving



  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭Quiet Achiever


    Exactly.

    We held off for that reason, because our garden is spectac if i say so myself.

    Unfortunately our neighbours are not.

    So we need to draw attention to the back of the house!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭Rezident


    Yes it is worth more than normal now, as in a chain right now of course it is easy to sell but it is very difficult to buy. There is still such little supply and the little there is is moving really fast. The last place I looked at was sold before I had even got a bid in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    Noticed this myself.

    It could be they are all jumping up on the higher price wagon at once.

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 211 ✭✭Hontou


    Yeah. I noticed it in Galway. In fact, 2 houses that were on the market in late Autumn have come back on the market in the same condition around 100,000 more each! I don't think they sold as not on the PPR. Looks like the owners pulled them off the market and are now looking for a higher price.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    Countrywide madness here in Dublin too. Adding 100k to the same houses. Not sure how they figured out everyone can pay more.

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭extra-ordinary_


    Can anyone tell me the usual timeline for sequence of events after my offer is accepted by vendor. Do I have to lodge a deposit within a day or two to secure the property, or does it take weeks? I'm currently looking at a property that ticked all the right boxes but as the price has crept up I've been looking at it more and more critically, and realistically the property definitely needs an engineer's report. Along with this, one of the boxes that is no longer ticked is it being cheap, which is also contributing to my cooling off, along with it being in an area not I'm crazy about.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Eims5769


    I haven't noticed this yet but am really hoping more start to come on stream in areas I'm looking. I've been outbid on two house this week. One by a cash buyer and one by a higher bidder. Haven't seen a single place of interest appear in the last two/three weeks. It's really getting disheartening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭mykrodot


    its always been the case. Every EA will tell you that. Houses sell better in Spring/Summer as they look better, brighter weather, longer days, gardens look better, kids off school so moving house easier. Almost any house I bought was in the Summer (I bought 5 )



  • Registered Users Posts: 12 HoppingTom


    Ive been outbid on three separate properties in a month and half. Bids above asking price by 80-100k+ on 900k properties. Feels like these people are going sale agreed at all cost to then renegotiate, is this common practice here? I've bought and sold in the US but the system here appears very flawed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭SharkMX


    We had the same problem. Just went straight in at our highest price on the last one on day one and it got accepted. We decided that it would slow be bid up by 20% anyway and we would drag everyone else up bidding slowly and then lose out again.

    We went straight in with what we thought the price would eventually be bid up to hoping to scare everyone off on day one and maybe the vendor would bite at such a high amount over asking straight away. We bid and said we wanted sale agreed tomorrow or we were going with another property. It worked.



  • Registered Users Posts: 258 ✭✭gaming_needs90


    Yep, don't worry this is happening all over the country I think. I don't know about the renegotiate part but certainly the mad bidding wars.

    To be honest in terms of the system I don't see a perfect alternative, they all have large downsides. We simply need more supply. One change I would like to see is to ban listing houses for less than the estate agent actually thinks they are worth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,118 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    Last 2 houses I've been bidding on, on the lower scale (360k) have gone for 120k and 70k over asking.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12 HoppingTom


    Insane time. When do properties actually appear on the property register after been purchased contracts signed?



  • Registered Users Posts: 394 ✭✭FledNanders


    Don't Scotland operate a single bid system?

    As in each person who wants to bid gets one chance, and the highest bidder wins.

    Seems much more sensible than what we have here which just creates prolonged stress and mania



  • Registered Users Posts: 12 HoppingTom


    The scottish system seems superior. Totally aware it's likely the best of a bad bunch. Add that and make bids legally binding.



  • Registered Users Posts: 701 ✭✭✭danoriordan1402


    Went through the Scottish system as a buyer and a seller, its a blind bidding type of scenario - property goes up for offers over a figure , and the general guide is 25% over , depending on who wants it more. All bids are sealed and submitted to the sellers solicitor and opened up on the agreed day.

    Was great fun sitting in the solicitors office opening the offers to be fair :)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    Expect months at least 6 months!

    There was a property I watched with interest that was sold and property price register reflected at least one year later!!

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    How in the name of god are people going to be paying back some of these mortgages!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    Yes and don't forget you are looking at 250k mortgage!!

    There is a lot of people big mortgages in 600-800k range. Put that in your calculator!

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    Also remember you must be employable all those 35 years and no drop in income, no health issues in all those 35 years etcccc

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    While other’s who sit on their arse all their lives get it for next to nothing!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,118 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    And have 150k in savings before hand. And then childcare costs on top of it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭Quiet Achiever


    Have you tried inheriting money? Or ask Papa for a gift?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭SharkMX


    That is cheaper than renting :)

    My Dad explained this to me years ago but only in the last month have I really understood it.

    He said when you buy your house it will feel very expensive. But 10, 20 years down the line your mortgage will seem cheap. If you keep renting your rent will rise with inflation over the years. Your mortgage will reduce with inflation. When you are retired paying zero or a small mortgage on your house trumps being retired and renting. And as your salary increases then you can pay lumps off of it if you choose. The hard part is starting it off in the first place.

    So we recently bought ours on a 35 year mortgage. Then about 3 months later we both got raises totaling about 15% of our combined income. Ive been told bonuses are back this year too, so in the Summer im expecting another 10%. This is all money we didnt think we would have. After tax we should be over €15k better off this year than last year.

    So now we suddenly have options. We have to decide do we overpay the mortgage or spend that money. We will probably use most of it to overpay. Maybe get the 35 year mortgage down to about 32 years after just one year. Or we could have our monthly payments reduced.

    We are counting on that happening most years from now on too, or we will be changing jobs to better paying ones. Probably be a few lean years in there along the way too, but overall we are expecting the mortgage to get easier as time goes by. And then childcare will probably be another mortgage or two at some point :) But the main thing is to knock out the mortgage early by as much as possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    I got the same talk and it does make sense.

    Either way it's a lot of money, and better to pay it off earlier.

    My 5 year fixed ends in 3 years and I plan to pay a 50k lump sum and get the house revalued, and hope the LTV is under 60% so I can access a better rate. I managed to sneak in before the first rate rise and the repayments on the new rates scare the bejeezus out of me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,164 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    When places go sale agreed and fall through they tend to come back on the market at the sale agreed price, not the original asking price. However I was sale agreed on a place in late 2023 at 45k over asking and got absolutely dicked around by the seller, think I posted about it on here. It's just gone back up now with an asking price of 30k over what we had agreed to pay for it, and the sale falling though was 100% the sellers fault and a complete waste of my time and money. They will get that price too, at an absolute minimum I would say. I hate to see people rewarded for that kind of behaviour, arseholes.



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