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Champions Cup final thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 478 ✭✭CptMonkey


    The lack of a decent outhalf hurt leisnter today. Does resting the main team work before these big games?

    Maybe a change in head coach🤷‍♂️

    Kieran Frawley should have played more at 10



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭testtech05


    Too many mistakes and chances missed the whole game and a lot of kickable pens turned down. Thought a few times Toulose were out on their feet but kept coming back into it. Fair play to them but a sickener for Leinster to come up just short again.

    He wasn't the difference between the teams but Carley was pretty abysmal the whole game. Cant understand how anyone could say he was favouring Leinster in that game.



  • Registered Users Posts: 184 ✭✭tbm


    Hard to know what to say. We’ve not been good enough, and Toulouse have managed things well. Gutted. It’s year 1 with JN. Let’s see if we can get a URC title, though they’ll be physically and mentally goosed after this I’d imagine.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,833 ✭✭✭Odelay


    Well done Toulouse. Kept their cool. Outstanding defence.



  • Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭trevezel


    a band of loosers these leinstermen….4th finale lost….



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,534 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    It's not the locks, it's the complete lack of focus. Complete and at sea several times this season. Uncharacteristically.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    Where to start. Ross Byrne, indiscipline, poor decision making, the referee.

    Congrats Toulouse though. Fitting that despite all the guff from the commentators about them tiring, they outworked us when it really mattered in the last 10 minutes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    Leinster again refusing to kick their points costs them.

    At this stage, I don't think Dupont is even human.

    Byrne an idiot for not going off as soon as he hurt himself.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,534 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    They are! Fair play to them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Even with John Sexton Dublin 4 couldnt get over the line. Thats not the issue.



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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭fitz


    You won't convince me that Toulouse win that without the yellow card. They were out on their feet momentum was with Leinster, and there was a 10 point swing as a result and Toulouse were re-energized. Could we have played smarter? Yes. But I'm f*cking sick of having to talk about refs making blatantly incompetent mistakes and inconsistently reffing teams.

    Carley is so out of his depth it's not funny.

    On our own side, Leo needs to take a hard look at our on field decision making.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,338 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    They're far from clueless. They are consistently making finals but obviously not good enough. Cullen moving on might be an option as a bit of a reset is needed.

    Leinster backline is thin. Really missed Ringrose.

    Need to see the emergence/establishment of Osborne, Prendergast, TOB, JOB as regular influencers on games



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭ironingbored


    Carley's been dreadful today.

    Ahki batted out no sanction vs Lowe YC Totally changes the game.

    Two no arms tackles not reviewed.

    Willis in from the side which led to a near try but for Larmour tackle.

    "Use it" for Leinster maul immediately while Toulouse maul stalls and nothing said.

    Dupont 1 sec turnover; Sheehan 5 seconds before a penalty given.

    Misses Lebel knock on, Healy headshot as a result.

    Rip by Ntamack called a knock on. Try disallowed.

    Having said all that, Leinster had enough territory and possession to win that game. A literal cigarette paper between these sides. Dupont the difference maker.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,650 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    As A Leinster fan , Toulose were the better team , played better rugby, forwards are good , but the backs not good eneogh , Ringrose seriously missed in midfield and a top quality 10. Dupont what a player, head and shoulders best player on the pitc, JPG is good, but Dupont won the 9 battle, by some.



  • Administrators Posts: 53,762 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I know it’s hard to accept but the ref wasn’t a factor in the result today. It was a yellow card all day long.

    Leinster made so many bad decisions today.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,586 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    Leinster messed that up big time, but good god did the ref give as much to Toulouse as humanly possible.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Toulouse won the 2nd half of ET 9-0 down a man, due to some of the most brain dead rugby I have ever seen!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    awfull penalty Cian healy gave away at a crucial time…



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭SqueakyKneecap


    Cullen is so far out of his depth when it matters



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    I have never said it before(honestly) but Cullen has to go now, three tries is enough for anyone, whether it was his decision making or not , to develop Ross Byrne for example ahead of carbery and frawley and other ball players, when your culture is a ball playing team fundamentally is just cowardice and you cannot win with cowards. Cullen is at the top and his head must fall as an example.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,546 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Leinster bottled that final...make no mistake...

    Serious question marks over their mental strength....

    Not able to handle the pressure…

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,804 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Himself and JGP were not only immense at scrum half but they were the best players in other people's positions.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    You would recognise that trait from their performances in the irish jersey.



  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭honestbroker


    Ninebar is on his way to SA for another 2nd row, at least 2 outhalves and some junior players that at least know the laws (rules) of Rugby Union.



  • Administrators Posts: 53,762 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    that wasn’t Healys fault. The support players were way too slow.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,350 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Larmour had a good game defensively, but we desperately could've done with JOB's creativity to spark something.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,338 ✭✭✭KaneToad




  • Registered Users Posts: 17,140 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Leinster had so much possession and territory in to game which they couldn't convert into points. Completely different to previous fixtures against Toulouse where we scythed through them.

    Our attack just isn't as good as seasons past. We didn't seem to acknowledge that until it was too late. Turned down so many kickable opportunities.



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